[mythtv-users] Commercial skip, cutlist, auto skip, and editing.

[Michael J. Lynch]

Chris Pinkham wrote:

>>When a video has been commercial flagged and then the
>>video editor is brought up for that video, no cut sections
>>are displayed until I hit *z* on the keyboard.  Does this
>>essentially load the cut list with with data from commercial
>>flagging?  Is the cut list generated in this manner independent
>>of the commercial cut list?  That is to say, if I modify this
>>cut list, those modifications have no effect on the cut list
>>for commercials?
>>    
>>
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>The cutlist and commercial skip list are two separate
>lists and are treated separately.  The only interaction between
>the two is when you hit 'Z' in the editor which tells Myth to
>copy the commercial skip list to the cutlist.
>
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>>When I create a cut list via the video editor, the commercial
>>skip mode (on, off, notify) doesn't seem to have any affect.
>>    
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>If a cutlist exists, it is always used and overrides any
>commercial skip list present for a recording.  So the commercial
>auto-skip mode has no effect if you have a cutlist present for
>a recording.
>
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>>When I set auto commercial skip mode to anything except *off*,
>>skipping only occurs if I first enter the editor and then press
>>*z*.
>>    
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>There was a bug in older versions of Myth that would cause
>the auto-skip to not work for anything but the first skip, so
>if you are running an older version, you may be running into
>this.  If you do now have a cutlist (ie, you didn't create one
>or you used 'Q' to delete the cutlist from within the editor),
>and you set Auto-Commercial Skip to ON, then the commercial
>skip list is used and commercials marked will be skipped
>automatically.  If you set Auto-Skip to Notify or Pre-Notify,
>then a OSD popup will occur informing you when a commercial
>starts so you can use the 'Z' key to manually skip the commercial.
>If you have Auto-Skip OFF, you have no notification and must
>still hit 'Z' to skip commercials (read the keys.txt for
>more descriptios of the keys).
>
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>>Additionally, if I set auto commercial skip mode to *notify*,
>>I am not notifed and the cut section is just skipped.  Is this
>>because at this point skipping is unconditionally occurring as a
>>result of having a valid cut list?
>>    
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>I think this may be because you created a cutlist and didn't clear
>it using 'Q' inside the editor.
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Chris,

    Thanks.  That pretty much clears everything up for me.  As
I read your answers the basic gist is:

    A cutlist overrides commercial flagging and commercial
skip mode *only* applies to commercial flags.

    One last quick question if you don't mind.  Is there a way to
modify commercial flags so that the commercial skip mode
will still work?

    You are correct.  I didn't use *Q* to clear the list.  I simply
deleted all of the cut points then exited.

    Once again, thanks for all of the info.

-- 
Michael J. Lynch

What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about -- author unknown