[mythtv-users] Fix for forced subtitle problems

Paul Gardiner lists at glidos.net
Tue Dec 5 10:29:16 UTC 2023


On 04/12/2023 23:32, Paul Gardiner wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04/12/2023 21:00, Angela via mythtv-users wrote:
>> Hi Paul
>>
>>> It's the behaviour of toggle that is altered - "TV Playback TOGGLECC" 
>>> - the command by default assigned to the T key.
>>
>> "TV Playback    TOGGLECC    Toggle any captions"
>> toggles also teletext captions.
>> The behavior is the same: "subtitle on/off" (displayed in OSD)
>> Is it correct that you mentioned it should flip to enable between 
>> forced and non-forced?
> 
> If you just take my first two commits then TOGGLECC should toggle on/off 
> the "chosen as best" non-forced subtitle. It should do so even if there 
> is a forced subtitle and that forced subtitle is active (as is the 
> default when a video starts). It is that second condition that is new 
> behaviour: without my first two commits, when a forced subtitle was 
> active, TOGGLECC didn't enabled/disabled the non-forced subtitle.
> 
> I you take all 3 of my commits then, when the non-forced subtitle is 
> enabled, the forced one is also disabled, so it swaps between the two.
> 
>> "TV Playback    TOGGLESUBTITLE    Toggle Subtitles"
>> The behavior is the same: "subtitle on/off" (displayed in OSD)
> 
> I haven't tested TOGGLESUBTITLE, but that should be affected too I'd guess.
> 
>> Both keys behave the same when an mkv is played (not the case when 
>> playback TV with teletext captions).
>>
>>
>>> I was uncertain about that last commit. It's worth trying with and 
>>> without. I added that commit because I believe that it is common for 
>>> non-forced tracks to provide a superset of the text in forced tracks.
>>> Without that last commit, you may often find that you see the same 
>>> text twice on screen.
>>
>> That's what I also mentioned, that it might get garbled. The number of 
>> forced texts is rather low.
>> In "full" non-forced, also the forced are included.
>> I am not sure if I had once forced and non-forced displaying at the 
>> same time. Maybe it stopped working at a given time. In early years 
>> external subtitles were common, and had to toggle through them.
>> Chances are that they cover each other nicely.
>>
>> As mentioned, the menu has two enable/disable forced and non-forced 
>> options. This suggest both can be displayed at the same time.
>>
>> 1. I would prefer to display both, when to many garbling's happen, and 
>> it annoys, the forced can be shut-off (considering the user has the 
>> global option "active subtitle" enabled, to enable the non-forced also).
> 
> Yeah, that may be best. We could see what the consensus is for this. 
> That should be the behaviour when taking just the first two commits.
> 
>> 2. You mentioned, that non-forced take precedence at startup. When 
>> only showing one caption, I would rather go with the non-forced ones 
>> (considering the user has the global option "active subtitle" enabled).
> 
> Yes, I think the choice is either both or the non-forced, otherwise the 
> problem this is supposed to fix would remain: we would have forced 
> subtitles being active inhibiting non-forced.
> 
>> Maybe at the beginning go with 1., when many negative reactions, 
>> implement 2.
> 
> That's fine with me.

Actually, I remember now that there is one more argument for going for 
option 2 over option 1. The behaviour without my changes did not permit 
two simultaneous AV subtitles: you could not select a forced track and a 
non-forced track together. So, Option 2 is a lesser alteration of behaviour.


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