[mythtv-users] Upgrade path for Mythbuntu 14.04?

Karl Newman newmank1 at asme.org
Mon Dec 26 04:58:38 UTC 2016


On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Will Dormann <wdormann at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/23/16 9:26 AM, Karl Newman wrote:
> > Just a little plug here: I use Gentoo and have been able to continuously
> > update it since I first installed it in 2005.
>
> When I first set up MythTV in 2003, it was on a Gentoo host.
>
> Given that it was mostly like an appliance, I didn't really keep on top
> of updates for everything.  Until there was one update that I needed (it
> was in a service that was exposed to the internet at the time).    And
> that package update needed another dependency to be updated, which
> needed a new glibc, which needed a new gcc, which needed me to recompile
> my kernel and every other package on the system.   On a single-core
> celeron.   That was when I moved on.
>
> Even in a VM with a bare minimum of software installed, I've found that
> keeping things up to date requires a special voodoo dance and spare time
> to troubleshoot why the last install resulted in a merge conflict.  But
> being in a VM, I could instantly restore back to my snapshot and try
> again (and again...).
>
> In my opinion, Gentoo takes a certain amount of dedication and desire to
> continue to tinker with the system for indefinite amounts of time.
> Beyond what Linux in general requires, that is.
>
> That's probably true to some degree, but Gentoo allows you to spread the
upgrade pain over time and deal with the package changes one at a time.
This normally minimizes major down time and I don't have to find a big gap
in my schedule for upgrading. Conflicts (that is, ones which have to be
resolved manually) have gotten much rarer over the years as portage has
improved. But, that's why it's good that there's a lot of distros to choose
from--pick whichever one minimizes your particular pain points.

Karl
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