[mythtv-users] Mythtv and Samsung Allshare?

Mon Nov 19 03:01:52 UTC 2012

Hi Jeremy,

On 16/11/12 06:47, Jeremy Jones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:10 PM, john <newsgrp1 at bestpond.com
> <mailto:newsgrp1 at bestpond.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 14/11/12 00:29, Ken Mandelberg wrote:
>
>         Has anyone got mythtv to work with Samsung Allshare, the built
>         in DLNA client on Samsung TV's? My TV see's the mythtv server
>         but then bombs after I select it.
>
>
> See the page here:
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:UPnP_Clients and feel free to
> update with new info.
>
>
>
>     I recently bought a Samsung 32" TV (Model UA32ES5500MYXY Series 5)
>     for the bedroom I have it wall mounted and it is connected to my
>     lan via ethernet ( I wasn't prepared to fiddle with another
>     wireless point). I eventually got the network running. It got as
>     far as seeing the mythtv backend which runs upnp, and tries to
>     connect, then bombs...as you say.
>
>     I tried setting up minidlna which is recommended by a lot of
>     people, and managed to connect OK.  But no myth menus or nice
>     program names! I simply had a list of files, so if I proceeded it
>     was pot luck what was going to be seen, especially as I have
>     several hundred recordings across two backends and the main
>     frontend in the lounge room.
>
>
> As you mention later in the email the 'pretty names' can be achieved
> by running mythlink to generate the folders and names, all organized
> the way you like them.  You can use a folder like ~/miniDLNA/ as the
> base path for mythlink and share that base path with the miniDLNA.conf
> file.  I've even seen a email here by someone that was runnnig
> mythlink multiple times to create a different (parrallel) structure
> for different ways of organizing recordings.  The names are populated
> by any of the --format options listed on the wiki page (paseted in
> below for reference) and you can use path seperators, '/' in linux, to
> create folders.
>
>
>
>     I set about attempting to get the program names showing, and used
>     the mythlink script. I just used a suggested set of options I
>     found on this list (I think) which put the series title first and
>     then ordered the episodes. That seemed to work at first, but then
>     while I had a list of all the titles as I went to select the
>     episode, in the majority of cases it listed the file name date &
>     time only, with the occasional one having an episode title.
>
>
> If you post the format that you specified we may can help.  If some of
> the recordings show a title, but others don't then that probably
> indicates that you have missing titles in the metadata.
>
>
>     Next discovery was as I scrolled (or tapped down the list) I found
>     that after the titles with "Z" I still had showing a huge list of
>     the files names again. Probably from the earlier attempt. So I
>     have to sort out how to get rid of those files appearing. I have
>     since discovered that the fast forward, and rewind buttons on my
>     Samsung remote will do page up & page down through the title
>     listing, so I don't have to click down line by line.
>
>
> Sounds like either you have run mythlink multiple times with a
> different destination directory, or you have miniDLNA serving up two
> different folders. I've had great success with miniDLNA and mythlink
> and would be glad to help.
>
>
>     I had also read of serviio, which seemed a bit more complex than
>     minidlna, so am still considering if it is worth a try.
>
>     To get the TV working  to stream MythTV with AllShare, it seems
>     that you need to use a separate dlna server, and then the mythlink
>     script, I am yet to discover the magic of getting that right to
>     display Series Title, then episode title, also I couldn't seem to
>     get any program information either.
>
>
> I also do not know how to get the miniDLNA server to share out any
> metadata.  Since the myth's metadata is in the database, you would
> have to extract that information somehow, and associate it with the
> recording.  mythlink will embed info in the filename, but I don't know
> how one would send the metadata otherwise.
>
>     I do not have the dlna server working as well as I would like, and
>     perhaps I should try serviio instead of minidlna.
>
>
> Well, I don't know about serviio, but the best option is 1)
> mythFronted, 2) frontend client that recoginizes myth backend, 3)
> mythlink and a separate dlna server.  If you want help with miniDLNA
> and mythlink, then post back with more info.  I would suggest as a
> separate thread
>
>     Unfortunately, from what I have seen there may also be a bit of
>     variation with AllShare depending on the TV model or series.
>
>     I am fully aware that to get this working "perfectly" i just need
>     to add a frontend, but in my case that is not presently possible.
>     So it would be helpfull to hear from others who have got the
>     upnp/dlna solution working well with a separate dlna server and
>     perhaps some additional ideas on using mythlink or other scripts
>     to give a reasonable menu type display of recording/music/video
>     choices.
>
>
>     Examples
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%T/%T%-%S'
>
> creates links using the format |[title]/[title]-[subtitle]|
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%T-%S'
>
> creates links using the format
> |[startdate]-[starttime]-[endtime]-[title]-[subtitle]|
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%T/%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S'
>
> creates links using the format
> |[title]/[startdate]-[starttime]-[endtime]-[subtitle]|
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%U-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S'
>
> creates links using the format
> |[recgroup]-[title]-[startdate]-[starttime]-[endtime]-[subtitle]|
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%C-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S'
>
> creates links using the format
> |[category]-[title]-[startdate]-[starttime]-[endtime]-[subtitle]|
>
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%T-%oY%om%od-%S'
>
> creates links using the format |[title]-[original airdate]-[subtitle]|
>
> |
> |
> |The above was pasted in from the wiki page:
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl|
> As I said above, you can also a the / in your --format string to
> create a folder structure.
> try:
> mythlink.pl  <http://mythlink.pl>  --link /mnt/pretty --format '%U/%T/%T-%oY%om%od-%S'
> This should give you the format:
> /mnt/pretty/[your recording group]/[program title]/[Program
> title]-[Original Airdate]-[subtitle]
>
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeremy
Jeremy thank you very much for your detailed comments here, and my 
apologies for the delay in replying. I have not been able to get back to 
testing and trying out your suggestions  as I have to take the myth BE 
offline to resolve problems arising from the upgrade mythtv 0_25 to 0_26 
and some opensuse system sofware issues. I am in the process of 
re-installing the OS as well as MythTV on a clean drive.

I'll get back once the system is up again, and I have looked at the dlna 
options.

Thanks,
John

-- 
John,
Canberra,
Australia