[mythtv-users] For whom the bell tolls [RM for DVB aka CPCM]

Dean Collins Dean at cognation.net
Wed Mar 14 18:44:50 UTC 2007

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Dewey Smolka
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2007 2:35 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] For whom the bell tolls [RM for DVB aka
> On 3/14/07, Stroller <stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > On 14 Mar 2007, at 17:09, Peter Bowyer wrote:
> > >> Peter Bowyer wrote:
> > >>> Make sure you read about all of the EFF's activities before you
> > >>> them money. In particular, check out what they say and do about
> > >>> spam.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That leads me quite quickly to <http://www.eff.org/spam/
> > position_on_junk_email.php>, which seems quite reasonable to me.
> >
> > Stroller.
> >
> I've got to agree with Stroller here. From the EFF site:
> "Fundamentally, EFF believes that email recipients should control when
> and how they receive their mail. To the greatest extent possible,
> anti-spam measures should be controlled by end users, and any measure
> for stopping spam must ensure that all non-spam messages reach their
> intended recipients. When antispam measures prevent activists and
> nonprofits from sending and receiving bulk noncommercial mail, EFF
> considers this a problem commensurate with the problem of spam itself.
> Another problem arises when antispam measures sacrifice a citizen's
> ability to engage in anonymous free speech, which the Supreme Court
> has ruled countless times is protected under the First Amendment.
> "Spam is currently regulated by state and national laws, as well as
> thousands of company policies. Antispam grassroots groups and software
> developers also provide tools designed to stem the flood of unwanted
> mail. EFF is involved in lawsuits, policy discussions, and activist
> campaigns to make sure that antispam measures don't go too far - that
> they don't stamp out our liberties in the process of liberating our
> inboxes from unwanted junk mail. That said, EFF enthusiastically
> endorses antispam measures and policies that preserve free speech by
> allowing users to determine what kinds of messages will be filtered
> out and which ones won't."
> What exactly is your problem with this position?
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Yep sounded fair to me as well.
But then again I've had issues with idiots running ip blockers that were
poorly implemented.


Dean Collins
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