[mythtv-users] V35 install on Archlinux using cmake is missing python modules used in find_orphans.py

Wed Feb 19 19:31:31 UTC 2025

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:28 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:20 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:14 PM Roland Ernst <rcrernst at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 8:10 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
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>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:51 PM Roland Ernst <rcrernst at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:13 PM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 12:07:45 PM (-06:00), James Abernathy
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:44 AM James Abernathy <
>>>>>> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:22 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> > >>
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>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 09:53:55 AM (-06:00), James
>>>>>> Abernathy wrote:
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>>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:47 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >> > > On Wednesday 19 February 2025 08:24:29 AM (-06:00), James
>>>>>> Abernathy
>>>>>> > >> wrote:
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>>>>>> > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:21 AM James Abernathy <
>>>>>> > >> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > >> > > > wrote:
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>>>>>> > >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:11 AM glen <glenb at glenb.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> On Wed, 2025-02-19 at 07:42 -0500, James Abernathy
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> So I've got a successful build of Mythtv on Archlinux
>>>>>> using the
>>>>>> > >> v35
>>>>>> > >> > > cmake
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> method. I used ansible for my dependencies and it works
>>>>>> fine as
>>>>>> > >> far
>>>>>> > >> > > as I
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> can tell.
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> However when I try find_orphans.py I get:
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> ./find_orphans.py
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> File "/home/jim/Downloads/./find_orphans.py", line 3, in
>>>>>> > >> <module>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> from MythTV import MythDB, MythBE, Recorded, MythError
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'MythTV'
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> I built using sudo like this:
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --preset qt5 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
>>>>>> 2>&1 | tee
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> ~/stage1-log
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --build build-qt5 2>&1 | tee ~/stage2.log
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> I looked through the stage1 and 2 log files I teed off
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > >> didn't see
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> anything missing except qt5webkit which is not needed.
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> I can post those logs to Google Drive if needed.
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> Jim A
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > >> is mythtv folder in the latest python on your machine in
>>>>>> > >> > > site-packages ?
>>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > > No it seems that the build process didn't even build
>>>>>> them???
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > > sudo updatedb
>>>>>> > >> > > > > sudo plocate site-packages | grep -i mythtv
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > > Shows nothing.
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > > Jim A
>>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > BTW the link to the google drive with the stage 1&2 logs
>>>>>> is:
>>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v4beUzxygecF5_Sq4g2OR1s7s6CN9W4u?usp=drive_link
>>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>>> > >> > > > Jim A
>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >> > > 1. I see pip is missing and it's not in ansible, please try
>>>>>> pacman and
>>>>>> > >> > > install python-pip
>>>>>> > >> > > And python3-pip (I don't see any python3 packages in the
>>>>>> pacman
>>>>>> > >> ansible
>>>>>> > >> > > tasks.)
>>>>>> > >> > > I'll push if one of those works.
>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >> > > 2. If it doesn't help, try adding this:
>>>>>> -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>>> > >> > > 3. Are you running cmake as root?
>>>>>> > >> > > Including user overrides
>>>>>> > >> /root/.config/MythTV/BuildOverridesPost.cmake
>>>>>> > >> > > That's my choice as I mimic the 'old' make/sudo make install.
>>>>>> > >> > > --
>>>>>> > >> > > Bill
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> > python-pip was missing and I installed it. However,
>>>>>> python3-pip is not
>>>>>> > >> > found on the Arch repository.
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> > I'll see what I can do with that.
>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>> > >> > Jim A
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Looks like:
>>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Python#Other_versions is
>>>>>> > >> one of the
>>>>>> > >> answers. If typing: python --version now shows 2.7, then I don't
>>>>>> > >> understand.
>>>>>> > >> That's been EOL since 1/1/2020.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Don't know if all packages python3 packages used here are on AUR
>>>>>> (and my
>>>>>> > >> Dockere is broken right now).
>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>> > >> Bill
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > > That error is the same one I get if I try to build from source
>>>>>> like the
>>>>>> > > wiki says using the old ./configure, make, sudo make install. I
>>>>>> can do an
>>>>>> > > install fine with the AUR package, mythtv-git, but I have to
>>>>>> modify the
>>>>>> > > PKGBUILD file to use v35 and eliminate the python-future
>>>>>> dependency.
>>>>>> > > However, I can't remember the last time I did that successfully
>>>>>> if I test
>>>>>> > > find_orphans.py.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I'm betting it's a dependency issue, but having to depend on AUR
>>>>>> > > maintainers for weird Python packages is suspect at best. In my
>>>>>> NUCBOX,
>>>>>> > > it's easy to switch out the NVME drive and test something else.
>>>>>> So I've
>>>>>> > > pulled the Arch SSD and put it in timeout so it can think about
>>>>>> how it
>>>>>> > > screwed up. In the meantime I'll test something on Debian that I
>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>> > > do for comparison.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I did find something about pip and AUR. I can't say I understand
>>>>>> all of it:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > All python PKGBUILDs are built with --without-ensurepip, and pip
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> > > provided via the python-pip package, which is built for the
>>>>>> system-wide
>>>>>> > > python environment as a "site-packages" package. If you build any
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> > > python version from the AUR, then you're supposed to use virtual
>>>>>> > > environments for any of those other python versions. In those
>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>> > > environments, pip gets installed separately, and this is where
>>>>>> you can also
>>>>>> > > upgrade or even remove it.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > $ yay -S python311
>>>>>> > > $ python -m virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3.11 /path/to/venv
>>>>>> > > $ source /path/to/venv/bin/activate
>>>>>> > > $ python --version
>>>>>> > > $ python -m pip --version
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Jim A
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As a comparison, on an Archlinux VM I used the ansible dependencies
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > mythtv and then git cloned the AUR mythtv-git.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I modified only the fixes/35 from 34 in the PKGBUILD file, and then
>>>>>> built
>>>>>> > the package with makepkg -si
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Once it complete I did the sudo updatedb, plocate site-packages |
>>>>>> grep -i
>>>>>> > mythtv and this time I got a bunch of files.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So I have not built a full mythtv combo BE/FE but this answers part
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> > question.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>>>>>> ./configure,
>>>>>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> > built for Archlinux.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jim A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you try adding: -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>>>>> on your cmake command line?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>> what does the file "MythTV/_versions.py" state as "INSTALL_PREFIX" on
>>>>> the ArchLinux build?
>>>>> Does it match the path of the installed MythTV python bindings?
>>>>>
>>>>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>>>>> ./configure,
>>>>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from
>>>>> being
>>>>> > built for Archlinux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is different between the old make and the new cmake process.
>>>>> If the python installation is protected by the file "
>>>>> EXTERNALLY-MANAGED"
>>>>> no one except the package manager is allowed to install to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roland
>>>>> That's the problem there is no MythTV/_versions.py file anywhere on
>>>>> the system where I'm building mythtv.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   plocate _version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/_pytest/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/ansible/posix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/mso/plugins/modules/mso_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/action/vtp_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/modules/nxos_vtp_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/crypto/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/general/plugins/lookup/collection_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/mysql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/modules/avi_api_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/postgresql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/rabbitmq/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/sops/plugins/filter/_latest_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/windows/plugins/modules/win_file_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/zabbix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/fortinet/fortimanager/plugins/modules/fmgr_waf_profile_
>>>> constraint_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/google/cloud/plugins/modules/gcp_mlengine_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/hetzner/hcloud/plugins/module_utils/vendor/hcloud/_vers
>>>> ion.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/kubernetes/core/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_export_versi
>>>> on.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_import_versi
>>>> on.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_view_version
>>>> .py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/dateutil/_version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/iniconfig/_version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/paramiko/_version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pip/_vendor/urllib3/_version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pluggy/_version.py
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/tests/test_version.py
>>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/_version.py
>>>> [jim at nucboxg3 build]$
>>>>
>>>> This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on
>>>> the other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
>>>>
>>>> Jim A
>>>>
>>>
>>> > This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on
>>> the other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> Roland
>>>
>>>
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>> okay on the system (Archlinux VM) where I built using the makepkg -si. On
>> the AUR PKGBUILD method I see:
>>
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>> /home/jim/mythtv-git/pkg/mythtv-git/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>>
>> /home/jim/mythtv-git/src/mythtv/mythtv/bindings/python/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>>
>> /home/jim/mythtv-git/src/mythtv/mythtv/bindings/python/build/lib/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>>
>> JIm A
>>
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> So I had some success on the system with cmake build. Now I have
> site-packages/MythTV with a bunch of .py files.
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> I did this:
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> sudo cmake --preset qt5 -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr 2>&1 | tee ~/stage1-log
> sudo cmake --build build-qt5 2>&1 | tee ~/stage2.log
>
>  Jim A
>
>
And now find_orphans.py works

Jim A
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