[mythtv-users] V35 install on Archlinux using cmake is missing python modules used in find_orphans.py

[James Abernathy]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:20 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:14 PM Roland Ernst <rcrernst at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 8:10 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:51 PM Roland Ernst <rcrernst at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:13 PM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 12:07:45 PM (-06:00), James Abernathy
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:44 AM James Abernathy <
>>>>> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:22 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 09:53:55 AM (-06:00), James
>>>>> Abernathy wrote:
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>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:47 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> > >> > > On Wednesday 19 February 2025 08:24:29 AM (-06:00), James
>>>>> Abernathy
>>>>> > >> wrote:
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>>>>> > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:21 AM James Abernathy <
>>>>> > >> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> > > > wrote:
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>>>>> > >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:11 AM glen <glenb at glenb.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > >> On Wed, 2025-02-19 at 07:42 -0500, James Abernathy wrote:
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> So I've got a successful build of Mythtv on Archlinux
>>>>> using the
>>>>> > >> v35
>>>>> > >> > > cmake
>>>>> > >> > > > >> method. I used ansible for my dependencies and it works
>>>>> fine as
>>>>> > >> far
>>>>> > >> > > as I
>>>>> > >> > > > >> can tell.
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> However when I try find_orphans.py I get:
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> ./find_orphans.py
>>>>> > >> > > > >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> > >> > > > >> File "/home/jim/Downloads/./find_orphans.py", line 3, in
>>>>> > >> <module>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> from MythTV import MythDB, MythBE, Recorded, MythError
>>>>> > >> > > > >> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'MythTV'
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> I built using sudo like this:
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --preset qt5 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr 2>&1
>>>>> | tee
>>>>> > >> > > > >> ~/stage1-log
>>>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --build build-qt5 2>&1 | tee ~/stage2.log
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> I looked through the stage1 and 2 log files I teed off
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >> didn't see
>>>>> > >> > > > >> anything missing except qt5webkit which is not needed.
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> I can post those logs to Google Drive if needed.
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >> Jim A
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > >> is mythtv folder in the latest python on your machine in
>>>>> > >> > > site-packages ?
>>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > > No it seems that the build process didn't even build
>>>>> them???
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > > sudo updatedb
>>>>> > >> > > > > sudo plocate site-packages | grep -i mythtv
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > > Shows nothing.
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > > Jim A
>>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > BTW the link to the google drive with the stage 1&2 logs is:
>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v4beUzxygecF5_Sq4g2OR1s7s6CN9W4u?usp=drive_link
>>>>> > >> > > >
>>>>> > >> > > > Jim A
>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> > > 1. I see pip is missing and it's not in ansible, please try
>>>>> pacman and
>>>>> > >> > > install python-pip
>>>>> > >> > > And python3-pip (I don't see any python3 packages in the
>>>>> pacman
>>>>> > >> ansible
>>>>> > >> > > tasks.)
>>>>> > >> > > I'll push if one of those works.
>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> > > 2. If it doesn't help, try adding this:
>>>>> -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> > > 3. Are you running cmake as root?
>>>>> > >> > > Including user overrides
>>>>> > >> /root/.config/MythTV/BuildOverridesPost.cmake
>>>>> > >> > > That's my choice as I mimic the 'old' make/sudo make install.
>>>>> > >> > > --
>>>>> > >> > > Bill
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > python-pip was missing and I installed it. However, python3-pip
>>>>> is not
>>>>> > >> > found on the Arch repository.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > I'll see what I can do with that.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Jim A
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Looks like:
>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Python#Other_versions is
>>>>> > >> one of the
>>>>> > >> answers. If typing: python --version now shows 2.7, then I don't
>>>>> > >> understand.
>>>>> > >> That's been EOL since 1/1/2020.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Don't know if all packages python3 packages used here are on AUR
>>>>> (and my
>>>>> > >> Dockere is broken right now).
>>>>> > >> --
>>>>> > >> Bill
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > > That error is the same one I get if I try to build from source
>>>>> like the
>>>>> > > wiki says using the old ./configure, make, sudo make install. I
>>>>> can do an
>>>>> > > install fine with the AUR package, mythtv-git, but I have to
>>>>> modify the
>>>>> > > PKGBUILD file to use v35 and eliminate the python-future
>>>>> dependency.
>>>>> > > However, I can't remember the last time I did that successfully if
>>>>> I test
>>>>> > > find_orphans.py.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I'm betting it's a dependency issue, but having to depend on AUR
>>>>> > > maintainers for weird Python packages is suspect at best. In my
>>>>> NUCBOX,
>>>>> > > it's easy to switch out the NVME drive and test something else. So
>>>>> I've
>>>>> > > pulled the Arch SSD and put it in timeout so it can think about
>>>>> how it
>>>>> > > screwed up. In the meantime I'll test something on Debian that I
>>>>> wanted to
>>>>> > > do for comparison.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I did find something about pip and AUR. I can't say I understand
>>>>> all of it:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > All python PKGBUILDs are built with --without-ensurepip, and pip is
>>>>> > > provided via the python-pip package, which is built for the
>>>>> system-wide
>>>>> > > python environment as a "site-packages" package. If you build any
>>>>> other
>>>>> > > python version from the AUR, then you're supposed to use virtual
>>>>> > > environments for any of those other python versions. In those
>>>>> virtual
>>>>> > > environments, pip gets installed separately, and this is where you
>>>>> can also
>>>>> > > upgrade or even remove it.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > $ yay -S python311
>>>>> > > $ python -m virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3.11 /path/to/venv
>>>>> > > $ source /path/to/venv/bin/activate
>>>>> > > $ python --version
>>>>> > > $ python -m pip --version
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Jim A
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As a comparison, on an Archlinux VM I used the ansible dependencies
>>>>> for
>>>>> > mythtv and then git cloned the AUR mythtv-git.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I modified only the fixes/35 from 34 in the PKGBUILD file, and then
>>>>> built
>>>>> > the package with makepkg -si
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Once it complete I did the sudo updatedb, plocate site-packages |
>>>>> grep -i
>>>>> > mythtv and this time I got a bunch of files.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So I have not built a full mythtv combo BE/FE but this answers part
>>>>> of the
>>>>> > question.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>>>>> ./configure,
>>>>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from
>>>>> being
>>>>> > built for Archlinux.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jim A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you try adding: -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>>>> on your cmake command line?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>> what does the file "MythTV/_versions.py" state as "INSTALL_PREFIX" on
>>>> the ArchLinux build?
>>>> Does it match the path of the installed MythTV python bindings?
>>>>
>>>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>>>> ./configure,
>>>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from being
>>>> > built for Archlinux.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is different between the old make and the new cmake process.
>>>> If the python installation is protected by the file "
>>>> EXTERNALLY-MANAGED"
>>>> no one except the package manager is allowed to install to it.
>>>>
>>>> Roland
>>>> That's the problem there is no MythTV/_versions.py file anywhere on the
>>>> system where I'm building mythtv.
>>>
>>>
>>>   plocate _version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/_pytest/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/ansible/posix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/mso/plugins/modules/mso_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/action/vtp_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/modules/nxos_vtp_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/crypto/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/general/plugins/lookup/collection_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/mysql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/modules/avi_api_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/postgresql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/rabbitmq/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/sops/plugins/filter/_latest_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/windows/plugins/modules/win_file_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/zabbix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/fortinet/fortimanager/plugins/modules/fmgr_waf_profile_
>>> constraint_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/google/cloud/plugins/modules/gcp_mlengine_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/hetzner/hcloud/plugins/module_utils/vendor/hcloud/_vers
>>> ion.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/kubernetes/core/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_export_versi
>>> on.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_import_versi
>>> on.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_view_version
>>> .py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/dateutil/_version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/iniconfig/_version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/paramiko/_version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pip/_vendor/urllib3/_version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pluggy/_version.py
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/tests/test_version.py
>>> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/_version.py
>>> [jim at nucboxg3 build]$
>>>
>>> This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on the
>>> other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
>>>
>>> Jim A
>>>
>>
>> > This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on
>> the other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
>> Yes
>>
>> Roland
>>
>>
>
> okay on the system (Archlinux VM) where I built using the makepkg -si. On
> the AUR PKGBUILD method I see:
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> /home/jim/mythtv-git/pkg/mythtv-git/usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>
> /home/jim/mythtv-git/src/mythtv/mythtv/bindings/python/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>
> /home/jim/mythtv-git/src/mythtv/mythtv/bindings/python/build/lib/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/MythTV/services_api/_version.py
>
> JIm A
>


So I had some success on the system with cmake build. Now I have
site-packages/MythTV with a bunch of .py files.

I did this:

sudo cmake --preset qt5 -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr 2>&1 | tee ~/stage1-log
sudo cmake --build build-qt5 2>&1 | tee ~/stage2.log

 Jim A
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