[mythtv-users] HDPVR intermittent failure

DryHeat122 dryheat122 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 01:44:17 UTC 2020


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:35 PM John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:26 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:18 PM John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:12 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 6:00 PM DryHeat122 . <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:53 AM Rick <rick at laity.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/2/2020 10:35 AM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 5:08 AM Jim <lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     On 7/1/2020 9:23 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Greg <gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>>> >      > <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      >     On 6/27/20 9:46 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>> >      >>     On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM DryHeat122 .
>>>>>> >      >>     <dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >     <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>         On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:41 AM Stephen Worthington
>>>>>> >      >>         <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> <mailto:
>>>>>> stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz>>>
>>>>>> >      >>         wrote:
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>             On Sun, 10 May 2020 20:20:30 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>             >On Sun, May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM Greg
>>>>>> >     <gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>>> >      >>             <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>             >Ok thanks I will investigate that.  But it's
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> >      >>             working fine with the
>>>>>> >      >>             >current power source for like a year now, and
>>>>>> others on
>>>>>> >      >>             this list use it
>>>>>> >      >>             >too.
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>             <snip><https://forum.mythtv.org>
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>         Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will investigate
>>>>>> all of
>>>>>> >      >>         them.  Something I do not see in here is an opinion
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >     some
>>>>>> >      >>         software problem could have evolved.  I was kind of
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> >      >>         of that as a possibility given that it worked fine
>>>>>> for so
>>>>>> >      >>         long then seems to be degrading.  OTOH I never
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>> >     of the
>>>>>> >      >>         possibility that the USB connection could be
>>>>>> degrading.  I'm
>>>>>> >      >>         going to try Greg's connector, assuming I can get
>>>>>> parts
>>>>>> >      >>         during the Apocalypse.  Also, his link specifies
>>>>>> Radio Shack
>>>>>> >      >>         parts.  What's Radio Shack?!? ;-)
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>     Well folks this is getting frustrating.  I addressed a
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> >      >>     ventilation issue.  I also unplugged the power cord I
>>>>>> had from
>>>>>> >      >>     the Myth box USB and connected it to an old iPad charger
>>>>>> >     rated at
>>>>>> >      >>     5V/2A.  No help.  It wouldn't record anything, no
>>>>>> matter how
>>>>>> >     much
>>>>>> >      >>     rebooting and power-cycling. So I concluded the HDPVR
>>>>>> was hosed
>>>>>> >      >>     and got a new one (more accurately, a replacement
>>>>>> circuit board
>>>>>> >      >>     for it).  Powered it with the same wall wart. Recorded
>>>>>> great for
>>>>>> >      >>     a day.  Just turned it on and I have failed recordings
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> >      >>     won't respond when I try to manually play a channel.
>>>>>> >     Reboot, and
>>>>>> >      >>     it works fine, same pattern as before.
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>     I finally got a molex connector and am still going to
>>>>>> try what
>>>>>> >      >>     Greg suggested, but I really don't think it's a power
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>> >      >>     Apply makes good electronics and that wart has the same
>>>>>> specs as
>>>>>> >      >>     the power supply that comes with the HDPVR.  The HDPCR
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> >      >>     overheating.  It's not the HDPVR itself.  That only
>>>>>> leaves the
>>>>>> >      >>     software on the myth box.  Anyone have ideas how to
>>>>>> troubleshoot
>>>>>> >      >>     that?
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>> >      >      The next time it won't record,try to cat it and see if
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> >      >     responds.  This is the command I use,  cat /dev/video0 >
>>>>>> test ..
>>>>>> >      >     dmesg for the proper port it's connected to. This may
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> >     too see
>>>>>> >      >     if it is the software or not..
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      >     I am curious were you got the motherboard? There used to
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> >      >     place in Ohio (I believe) ,but they have gone out of
>>>>>> business.
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      > It failed again (despite putting the conf file in place).
>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>> >     the
>>>>>> >      > result:
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      > steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ cat /dev/video0 > test.ts
>>>>>> >      > cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      > I don't know how to "dmesg for the proper port it's connected
>>>>>> >     to."  I
>>>>>> >      > think it's just connected to a USB port, but I don't know
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> >     find
>>>>>> >      > out which one. Can you be more specific?
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>> >     This works on my system
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     dmesg | grep pvr
>>>>>> >     [    6.231302] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun
>>>>>> 17 2010
>>>>>> >     09:26:53
>>>>>> >     [    6.452748] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>>>> >     [    6.452844] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>>> >     docbuntu:~$
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ok next time it crashes I will try that.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the latest firmware is 0x1e from 2012. Probably won't make a
>>>>>> difference though but you never know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It crashed again.  Same result when I try to cat /dev/video0:
>>>>> input/output error
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what dmesg says:
>>>>>
>>>>> steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ dmesg | grep pvr
>>>>> [   12.937541] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: firmware version 0x14 dated May 12 2010
>>>>> 10:29:31
>>>>> [   12.937544] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: untested firmware, the driver might not
>>>>> work.
>>>>> [   13.152225] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>>> [   13.152252] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>>
>>>>> So it seems I do not have the latest device driver.  I doubt this is
>>>>> the problem as it was working fine for years with the existing device
>>>>> driver and I've not updated anything else.  But can't hurt to try.  How to
>>>>> install?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I looked into this and realized it was about firmware, which apparently
>>>> can't be updated without hooking up to Windows. I don't think it's worth it
>>>> because like I said it worked with the firmware it's got for quite some
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I'm out of ideas. Can you guys think of anything?  I'm thinking I will
>>>> need to just rebuild my machine with a fresh install of the lastest Ubuntu
>>>> and see if that helps.  I've been getting this "system software problem
>>>> detected" popup a lot. Maybe that has something to do with it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>> The first generation HD-PVR was extremely sensitive to the USB port it
>>> was plugged into. Basically did not work at all when plugged into USB3, and
>>> was picky about the USB2 chipset as well. The only thing you have probably
>>> not tried yet, is buying a USB2 add-on card to see if that helps. I don't
>>> think it will, but if you are desperate to keep your HD-PVR working, then
>>> that is the only thing I can think of.
>>>
>>> Your experience pretty much mirrors mine from a few years ago. My first
>>> generation HD-PVRs slowly got less and less reliable over time. That is
>>> what gave me the motivation to get the second generation HD-PVR working
>>> with Myth.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> I thought the HDPVR2 was not Myth compatible.  Has that changed?
>>
>>>
>  https://github.com/jpoet/HauppaugeUSB
>

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