[mythtv-users] HDPVR intermittent failure

John P Poet jppoet at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 01:35:12 UTC 2020


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:26 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:18 PM John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:12 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 6:00 PM DryHeat122 . <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:53 AM Rick <rick at laity.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/2/2020 10:35 AM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 5:08 AM Jim <lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com
>>>>> > <mailto:lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On 7/1/2020 9:23 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Greg <gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>> >      > <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      >     On 6/27/20 9:46 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>> >      >>     On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM DryHeat122 .
>>>>> >      >>     <dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >     <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>         On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:41 AM Stephen Worthington
>>>>> >      >>         <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> <mailto:
>>>>> stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz>>>
>>>>> >      >>         wrote:
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>             On Sun, 10 May 2020 20:20:30 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>             >On Sun, May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM Greg
>>>>> >     <gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>> >      >>             <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>             >Ok thanks I will investigate that.  But it's
>>>>> been
>>>>> >      >>             working fine with the
>>>>> >      >>             >current power source for like a year now, and
>>>>> others on
>>>>> >      >>             this list use it
>>>>> >      >>             >too.
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>             <snip><https://forum.mythtv.org>
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>         Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will investigate
>>>>> all of
>>>>> >      >>         them.  Something I do not see in here is an opinion
>>>>> that
>>>>> >     some
>>>>> >      >>         software problem could have evolved.  I was kind of
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> >      >>         of that as a possibility given that it worked fine
>>>>> for so
>>>>> >      >>         long then seems to be degrading.  OTOH I never
>>>>> thought
>>>>> >     of the
>>>>> >      >>         possibility that the USB connection could be
>>>>> degrading.  I'm
>>>>> >      >>         going to try Greg's connector, assuming I can get
>>>>> parts
>>>>> >      >>         during the Apocalypse.  Also, his link specifies
>>>>> Radio Shack
>>>>> >      >>         parts.  What's Radio Shack?!? ;-)
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>     Well folks this is getting frustrating.  I addressed a
>>>>> possible
>>>>> >      >>     ventilation issue.  I also unplugged the power cord I
>>>>> had from
>>>>> >      >>     the Myth box USB and connected it to an old iPad charger
>>>>> >     rated at
>>>>> >      >>     5V/2A.  No help.  It wouldn't record anything, no matter
>>>>> how
>>>>> >     much
>>>>> >      >>     rebooting and power-cycling. So I concluded the HDPVR
>>>>> was hosed
>>>>> >      >>     and got a new one (more accurately, a replacement
>>>>> circuit board
>>>>> >      >>     for it).  Powered it with the same wall wart. Recorded
>>>>> great for
>>>>> >      >>     a day.  Just turned it on and I have failed recordings
>>>>> and it
>>>>> >      >>     won't respond when I try to manually play a channel.
>>>>> >     Reboot, and
>>>>> >      >>     it works fine, same pattern as before.
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>     I finally got a molex connector and am still going to
>>>>> try what
>>>>> >      >>     Greg suggested, but I really don't think it's a power
>>>>> issue.
>>>>> >      >>     Apply makes good electronics and that wart has the same
>>>>> specs as
>>>>> >      >>     the power supply that comes with the HDPVR.  The HDPCR
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> >      >>     overheating.  It's not the HDPVR itself.  That only
>>>>> leaves the
>>>>> >      >>     software on the myth box.  Anyone have ideas how to
>>>>> troubleshoot
>>>>> >      >>     that?
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >>
>>>>> >      >      The next time it won't record,try to cat it and see if it
>>>>> >      >     responds.  This is the command I use,  cat /dev/video0 >
>>>>> test ..
>>>>> >      >     dmesg for the proper port it's connected to. This may help
>>>>> >     too see
>>>>> >      >     if it is the software or not..
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      >     I am curious were you got the motherboard? There used to
>>>>> be a
>>>>> >      >     place in Ohio (I believe) ,but they have gone out of
>>>>> business.
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      > It failed again (despite putting the conf file in place).
>>>>> Here's
>>>>> >     the
>>>>> >      > result:
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      > steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ cat /dev/video0 > test.ts
>>>>> >      > cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      > I don't know how to "dmesg for the proper port it's connected
>>>>> >     to."  I
>>>>> >      > think it's just connected to a USB port, but I don't know how
>>>>> to
>>>>> >     find
>>>>> >      > out which one. Can you be more specific?
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >      >
>>>>> >     This works on my system
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     dmesg | grep pvr
>>>>> >     [    6.231302] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun 17
>>>>> 2010
>>>>> >     09:26:53
>>>>> >     [    6.452748] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>>> >     [    6.452844] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>> >     docbuntu:~$
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ok next time it crashes I will try that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the latest firmware is 0x1e from 2012. Probably won't make a
>>>>> difference though but you never know.
>>>>>
>>>>> It crashed again.  Same result when I try to cat /dev/video0:
>>>> input/output error
>>>>
>>>> Here is what dmesg says:
>>>>
>>>> steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ dmesg | grep pvr
>>>> [   12.937541] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: firmware version 0x14 dated May 12 2010
>>>> 10:29:31
>>>> [   12.937544] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: untested firmware, the driver might not
>>>> work.
>>>> [   13.152225] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>> [   13.152252] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>
>>>> So it seems I do not have the latest device driver.  I doubt this is
>>>> the problem as it was working fine for years with the existing device
>>>> driver and I've not updated anything else.  But can't hurt to try.  How to
>>>> install?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I looked into this and realized it was about firmware, which apparently
>>> can't be updated without hooking up to Windows. I don't think it's worth it
>>> because like I said it worked with the firmware it's got for quite some
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I'm out of ideas. Can you guys think of anything?  I'm thinking I will
>>> need to just rebuild my machine with a fresh install of the lastest Ubuntu
>>> and see if that helps.  I've been getting this "system software problem
>>> detected" popup a lot. Maybe that has something to do with it.
>>>
>>>>
>> The first generation HD-PVR was extremely sensitive to the USB port it
>> was plugged into. Basically did not work at all when plugged into USB3, and
>> was picky about the USB2 chipset as well. The only thing you have probably
>> not tried yet, is buying a USB2 add-on card to see if that helps. I don't
>> think it will, but if you are desperate to keep your HD-PVR working, then
>> that is the only thing I can think of.
>>
>> Your experience pretty much mirrors mine from a few years ago. My first
>> generation HD-PVRs slowly got less and less reliable over time. That is
>> what gave me the motivation to get the second generation HD-PVR working
>> with Myth.
>>
>> John
>>
> I thought the HDPVR2 was not Myth compatible.  Has that changed?
>
>>
 https://github.com/jpoet/HauppaugeUSB
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