[mythtv-users] Missing season episode numbering while it is there

Hika van den Hoven hikavdh at gmail.com
Fri Apr 5 09:05:49 UTC 2019

Hoi faginbagin,

Friday, April 5, 2019, 12:21:49 AM, you wrote:

> On 4/4/2019 5:27 AM, Hika van den Hoven wrote:
>> Hoi Roger,
>> Thursday, April 4, 2019, 2:47:24 AM, you wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 23:33:14 +0200
>>> Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have for over a year noticed that season episode numbering
>>>>>>>>>> often does not show on a recording. I maintain the graber I
>>>>>>>>>> use and know it was supplied. I see when pressing info that
>>>>>>>>>> the data is there as a correct SxEx statement is shown, but
>>>>>>>>>> metadata shows zip. I see this most often when there is no
>>>>>>>>>> episode title. Actually then the failure is 100%.  
>>> According to https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12141#comment:1
>>> grabber SxEx is never used for recordings. 
>>> SxEx can only be derived from a metadata lookup with a known episode
>>> title, or be entered manually.
>>>>>> I suspect that the SxEx is not prioritised more highly from the
>>>>>> EPG data simply because historically it rarely ever existed so was
>>>>>> never factored much into the logic.  
>>> I believe US networks have/had a habit of re-ordering episodes and
>>> re-numbering them.
>>> I've also found UK series where metadata 'episode title'/SxEx differs
>>> from my EPG 'episode title'/SxEx.
>>> So a recording of "Series S2E7" is meaningless: no data is better
>>> than wrong data.
>>> If that isn't a concern, then a grabber that fills in episode title from
>>> SxEx would result in your recordings getting a SxEx.
>>> Without an episode title there's not much you can do currently.
>> Thanks for the info. But I beg to differ. Your statement "no data
>> is better than wrong data." is wrong in this context you are actually
>> stating "no data is beter then unverified data" with which I disagree.
>> Episodes are regularly recorded out of order and the season episode
>> numbering is the only way to but them in order so I need it.
>> I guess I will have to make a wrapper around the metadatalookup.

> Let me see if I understand. You want or need the season & episode
> numbers so that recordings are displayed in the correct order, right?

> If that's the case, and if you want to see the recordings in the correct
> order in mythfrontend's Watch Recordings when you are looking at a
> particular series, then there's an alternative, Original Air Date.

> Somewhere in mythfrontend's settings, you can tell it what data to use
> to sort episodes and whether to sort ascending or descending. I've
> chosen to sort by original air date in ascending order. mythfilldatabase
> using Schedules Direct does populate it in the recorded.originalairdate
> column. And I've been taking advantage of this feature long before I was
> on v0.27 (I'm now on v29). So, if your grabber provides that info, I'm
> sure you can figure out how to automate populating that column.

> But, if you're looking to display episodes in the right order in some
> other player, like a UPNP client, then I have no idea if original air
> date can help.

> HTH,
> Helen

Thanks, good idea. I was not aware that that was one of the sort
options. Only the original air date is in the data from my grabber not
really reliable and often if present only the year.
The grabber extract data from several web and json sources and tries
tot find series on ttvdb. Except for ttvdb none of those sources do
supply an original air date only some give a year that regularly is

Tot mails,
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