[mythtv-users] Frontend hardware

Anthony Giggins seven at seven.dorksville.net
Fri Dec 15 01:59:58 UTC 2017

On 15 December 2017 at 08:29, Anthony Giggins <seven at seven.dorksville.net>

> On 15 December 2017 at 05:43, Piotr Oniszczuk <piotr.oniszczuk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > Wiadomość napisana przez Matt Goebel <matt at goebelnet.com> w dniu
>> 30.11.2017, o godz. 22:22:
>> >
>> > I just recently faced this same dilemma when it came time to replace my
>> 2nd batch of aging HTPC's (two of them) that I've been using to run
>> mythfrontend for ~12 years.
>> > I wanted to drastically cut the expense, power usage, noise (NO fans),
>> and management overhead while at the same time adding support for 4k,
>> better organize my content collection, being more wife/family friendly,
>> adding (good) support of online content/streaming, and better remote access
>> to my content.  What I ended up with is the following:
>> >
>> > Software:
>> >
>> > - MythBackend for Live TV and recordings.  I have older HD-PVR's
>> because HDhomerun Primes won't work with my provider other than the basic
>> broadcast channels and being able to watch/record any cable/premium channel
>> is important to my wife.  I also have IPTV sources more my wife to
>> watch/record her HD European TV channels here in the US.  In terms of the
>> ability to watch/record anything from any source I've found nothing better
>> than Myth so no reason to change that part.
>> > - Plex media server. All my recordings (TV shows an Movies anyways) in
>> myth are automatically fed into this once complete.  I use myth2kodi to do
>> that, which adds support for automatically looking up missing metadata myth
>> might not know (like episode number).  Same goes for all my other content
>> from other sources, automatically added or manual.  It gets put into an
>> appropriate location and Plex takes care of the rest. Plex does a fantastic
>> job of grabbing meta data and making everything available anywhere, and
>> organizing it into distinct libraries, far better than what Myth can do.
>> > - Kodi for the frontend. I use the Plexkodiconnect addon to access all
>> my Plex content, and to organize everything in kodi into separate libraries
>> (since on it's only it only has one) so that I have all our TV Shows,
>> Movies, Kids movies/TV, woodworking shows/videos, exercise videos in
>> separate main menu libraries.  Live TV and access to any recordings
>> myth2kodi can't identify (sports/news/specials/etc only generally) are all
>> accessible from Myth via the mythtv PVR addon.  I can also watch ALL the
>> major streaming services in 4k (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Youtube Red,
>> and a dozen+ others) directly from Kodi (more on that below).  It takes the
>> right skin and quite a bit of time and effort tweaking settings and playing
>> around with kodi to get the ideal setup, but once you do it blows
>> everything else right out of the water.  My old Mythfrontend looks like a
>> joke compared to what I have now.
>> >
>> > Hardware:
>> >
>> > - Nvidia Shield TV's (one for each TV): These are absolutely
>> fantastic.  Relatively cheap (I got them for $170 each this month on sale),
>> 4k support, tiny, fanless and low powr, support for everything (which is
>> where I get a lot of the streaming service support in kodi).  I can plug in
>> a keyboard to them, or expand the storage (which I've not needed to do),
>> etc.  They add google home support too, so I have full voice controll over
>> my TV's from anywhere even without the remote.  Kodi isn't supported yet
>> for voice control via google (Alexa works though), but will be in 18.
>> > - Remotes I use the remote that came with the shield as well as some
>> Harmony 650's I had (with Flirc USB IR receivers).  I really like the
>> remote that came with the shield, but it's way to limiting with the lack of
>> buttons for certain things in kodi.  The Harmony takes care of that and
>> works perfectly.  I'm using HDMI CEC so that when I turn either the TV or
>> Shield on/off both are in sync and there is nothing the confuse the
>> wife/guests when something goes wrong.
>> >
>> > I'm completely in love with my new setup, as is the wife.  Even my just
>> turned 3 year old has figured it out and said it's better (now she can
>> watch youtube kids and PBS kids on the TV too).  For anyone still using
>> mythfrontend you really are missing out.  There are essentially NO
>> downsides to kodi, or a good android based setup, if you put the effort
>> into it. It's that much better x10.
>> >
>> >
>> Inspired by Matt setup I give a run for PLEX.
>> My use case is following:
>> -in house 4xFE
>> -out of house: rMBP,iPAD, iPhone used to play recordings at
>> vacations/on-road commuting/etc; Win10 in work.
>> For in house: I prefer myth FE. Reasons: mainly subjective (UI) but also
>> maintenance (single MiniMyth2 image for all FEs).
>> For out of house I ended with setup:
>> -iPhone & iPAD: PLEX
>> -PC with Windows/Llinux/macOS: mythweb with HTML5 streaming (with applied
>> https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12943)
>> For me unique functionality (even to PLEX) of mythweb with HTML5
>> streaming is in-advance download of already transcoded part - perfect for
>> adverts skipping.
>> My BE can transcode  3..35.x real-time so usually:
>> -I ask for watching
>> -start watching
>> -when first advert begins – I have already in-advance downloaded content
>> enough to skip advert via player slider.
>> This allows me to watch in web browser with adverts skipping – just like
>> in in-house FE.
>> I wasn’t able to achieve this with PLEX as PLEX transcodes in-advance
>> just to fill small buffer at player (so when buffer is filled - transcoding
>> is throttled).
>> BTW: in-advance download of already transcoded part works OK only for
>> some browsers:
>> -Mozilla 57.01 and 54.01 are perfect. (tested on Win10 and macOS). Other
>> versions had issues for me.
>> -Chrome: I wasn’t able to find any working version yet
>> -IE: not tested this crap
> Oh WOW, thanks I never knew that anyone had added HTML5 streaming to
> mythweb this is awesome will be patching today :)
> Any reason why these patches haven't been accepted?
> Cheers,
> Anthony
> Ok Patched

but cant get it working, do recordings need to be transcoded?

currently I'm getting "No video with supported format and MIME type found."

although from the updated apache config appears it shouldn't be required to

# Support HTML5 video formats which can be encoded and streamed
"on-the-fly" AddType video/ogg .ogv .ogg AddType video/webm .webm

or do I not have the required libraries added in? (ie. libx264, libvpx and

I'm currently running mythbuntu 16.04

MythTV Version : v29.0-59-g61d331c
MythTV Branch : fixes/29
Network Protocol : 91
Library API : 29.20170212-1
QT Version : 5.5.1
Options compiled in:
 linux profile use_hidesyms using_alsa using_oss using_pulse
using_pulseoutput using_backend using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python
using_bindings_php using_crystalhd using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend
using_hdhomerun using_vbox using_ceton using_hdpvr using_ivtv
using_joystick_menu using_libcec using_libcrypto using_libdns_sd
using_libfftw3 using_libxml2 using_lirc using_mheg using_opengl
using_opengl_video using_opengl_themepainter using_qtwebkit using_qtscript
using_qtdbus using_taglib using_v4l2 using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv
using_profiletype using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python
using_bindings_php using_freetype2 using_mythtranscode using_opengl
using_vaapi using_vdpau using_ffmpeg_threads using_mheg using_libass
using_libxml2 using_libmp3lame


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