[mythtv-users] mythtv dropping mysql???

[Thomas Mashos]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Rich Freeman
<r-mythtv at thefreemanclan.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com> wrote:
>>
>> Essentially you are just disabling a setting they current have
>> permission to change. Why wouldn't this be a good UI option?
>>
>
> It just seems obscure and complicated.  You're talking about
> per-recording role-based access control, or at least role-based access
> control in general.  The latter is probably more realistic, but you
> have to apply it at a per-button level if you want to control access
> to setting preserve/autoexpire.
>
> I certainly don't have a problem with this being implemented, but it
> seems likely that the order of operations will be to first remove
> database access, and then after some indefinite period of time if
> somebody is motivated they can add an extensive and likely-little-used
> role-based access control system.
>

While you are correct in that it would take someone motivated to add
that system, I'm not sure what would happen first. Many people in this
thread are freaking out that they will suddenly lose direct MySQL
access and that this is coming out of nowhere. But this has been
discussed on many occasions and has been a task on trac for 4 years (
https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TaskEmbeddedMysql ). AFAIK there
hasn't been any work to actually move to embedded SQL, so please don't
think that 0.28 is going to be embedded and that this is brand new
information.

> I'm just scratching my own itch here, and I'm going to tend to do it
> in the easiest way possible.  The fact that MythTV makes this sort of
> thing easy is a big selling point.
>
> Please don't get me wrong - I've had to deal with countless Gentoo
> systemd threads and the last thing I want to do is harp on this until
> the end of time.  As with other controversial topics, people post
> because they care.  I do appreciate that in the end the developers are
> the ones doing the work and they're going to do things the way they
> feel is best.  With FOSS our choices are to take it, leave it,
> contribute, or fork, and the first two are vastly easier to do than
> the latter two.  There is always the option to whine about it, and I
> really don't want to be that guy.  I get that the devs don't buy the
> argument, and that is their right.  They're not going about it the way
> I would, but I'm not the one writing the code.  Nobody is taking
> anything away from anybody - the code that is written is FOSS and will
> always work the way it does today.  Nobody owes anybody anything.
>
> Just do please try to keep the power users in mind.  I use KDE for a reason.  :)
>
> --
> Rich
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Thanks,

Thomas Mashos