[mythtv-users] MythTV needs to listen on 2 ports

[John Moore (Compucom Systems Inc)]

Joe,  To this comment….
So, good luck with your installation, and please don't bail on the community because of a minor disagreement.  In the end many folks took time to try and help you find a solution to your dilemma, and if we got a bit hot headed when you rejected them, it's only because we genuinely wanted to help, and felt that we had wasted our time.

Thank You.  I understand that people were trying to help.  An its solely due to the people on mailing list an forums which allow the  open source community to grow.  And for that I thank everyone who tried to provide assistance.  In the end, I had to come to a conclusion as to what will work for me.  An I did.  For that I thank everyone who was willing to reply.

BTW:  I had no clue the links were on the bottom with information to unsubscribe an such.  Never showed up on my emails till they were given to me in plain txt by Simon.

John Moore
OSG VM Solutions Team

From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Fry
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 8:52 AM
To: Discussion about MythTV
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV needs to listen on 2 ports

My reason for coming on here was 2 fold.
1.  To find the history and the reason as too why it appeared MythTV was only listening on 1 Network.  Which Raymond was able to fill me in on that.  Again, I thank you.
2.  To see if there is a work around to MAKE MythTV listen on 2 networks.  I am not one for compiling, but sure would have been willing to pay someone via paypal to do so remotely an use SCREEN utility to allow me to see so I learn how.

If #2 was not an option, I had a fall back plan that I was going to implement until my ability to spin up a dedicated media network was possible or Myth could support a multi network environment.

I did not want network hacks to allow mythtv to work.  And that was what everyone kept giving me.  I have tried a several time in several ways to explain that.  The best suggestions where those who said to spin up a dedicated media network.  What I have tried to explain is that in order for me to do so, I need more hardware and was looking for a stop gap till that hardware can be purchased in Feb.

I think the community felt you were being stubborn.  What I suggested, and others backed up, was not a network hack... it is standard practice with layer 3 switching, it is in fact the whole point of layer 3 switches.


To Joe's comment about VLANS and switches.... I totally understand I don't NEED a new switch to spin up a new VLAN.  My Layer3 had 5 vlans already.  As far as its concern, I could have multiple VLANs on a single port if I so wished.  But I don't want to move cables around, and I don't want a port for my media vlan in the middle of my block of parents or kids jacks.  On this note, I am sure my wrongly using the term port when referring to the physical network connection didn't help here.

Again, this is stubborn adherence to a principal that is misguided.  Yes, network pro's will assign ports to VLAN's in banks initially, usually to simplify the initial installation.  However as time goes on, it is expected that ports will be reassigned.  Hell, on many networks VLAN assignment is even dynamic; for example if a machine has outdated AV software it may get automatically moved to a restricted VLAN until it gets updated.

The fact is, the whole point of Layer 3 switching is to remove the physical constraints of matching a machine to a particular network switch/port.

To Mark P's comment about my ignoring suggestions...  I was not ignoring, I have set guidelines as to what I am looking for an a need for understanding as to why if it's not possible.  An everyone was ignoring my wants for my network an providing me the easiest solution for them to provide which was network forwarding or some form of network hack.  If everyone would have said "Its not possible", I would have dropped it an went forward with what I ended up doing anyways.  But everyone one wanted to argue with me and not try to understand why I have things setup the way I do.  All I was trying to do was explain my network (which is my learning lab an playground) an I know is overly complex.  If we want to take this offline, I would be more than happy to start a separate email with just the people who want to chat about this.

Since no one as responded to my comments about my getting off the group (even to me directly), I will stay on.  I am betting I can learn some new things, an at some point provide something as well.

That said, it is your network, you are certainly free to do things the way that makes sense to you.  I would love to hear that you embraced the industry standard practices and let go of some of your misconceptions, but I completely understand wanting to do things the way that feels most comfortable to you.  I know that my home network would make even seasoned veterans cringe... but I like it.

So, good luck with your installation, and please don't bail on the community because of a minor disagreement.  In the end many folks took time to try and help you find a solution to your dilemma, and if we got a bit hot headed when you rejected them, it's only because we genuinely wanted to help, and felt that we had wasted our time.
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