[mythtv-users] Switching away from comcast to online streams

[Michael T. Dean]

On 01/27/2014 03:23 PM, CACook wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:18:44 -0500 "Michael T. Dean" wrote:
>> We try to be fair and consistent in our rules for the list and our
>> requests to abide by the rules for the list.
>>
>> We may well miss messages where people discuss things that aren't
>> allowed according to the list rules and/or may not have time to
>> respond (and deal with the flood of cries that inevitably result when
>> we ask people to discuss topics elsewhere).  So sometimes we may not
>> say something--and in some cases it may be just a random mention
>> without any elaboration that doesn't result in any discussion such
>> that a reply would only bring more attention to the topic, so we may
>> choose not to reply.  I only replied when I saw within this thread 2
>> mentions of software and one of hardware that we don't want discussed
>> here.
>>
>> If we're really causing you that much concern over your rights or you
>> truly believe we're limiting your discussion unfairly, please feel
>> free to start your own forum/mailing list/Usenet group/... and
>> discuss whatever you like.  You may have a right to freedom of
>> speech, but for some topics you're going to have to provide your own
>> soap box on which to make that speech.  :)
> So, you're saying that the R5000 is not relevant to this thread?
>
> Or that you don't like the R5000 and therefore it is not to be discussed?
>
> Or both?

I'm trying to say that because the R5000 is disallowed under the ToS for 
the service provider, discussion of R5000 on this list is not allowed.  
I suppose you could say that I "don't like the R5000", but I think it's 
more precise to say that the MythTV community does not like discussion 
of the R5000 on this list.

Again, see #5 at 
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mailing_List_etiquette#Anything_else_I_should_be_aware_of.3F 
.  And, because its wording must be much better than mine--since it 
seems there's a lot of questions over what I'm trying to say--and since 
it seems few have actually read the rule at the link, I'll quote a small 
part of #5:
----
Discussion of any topics that may be considered illegal or questionably 
legal in any of the areas that MythTV developers and/or users reside 
(especially the United States as the mailing lists are hosted in the 
United States) is prohibited. Similarly, discussion of topics that are 
in violation of the Terms of Service/Terms of Use of any service 
(including cable or satellite TV or web services, such as video 
streaming sites or television listings sites) is prohibited.
-----

Please see the wiki page for the full wording and justification for the 
rule.

Mike

*** And not just developers, but a lot of users, too, who don't want to 
see the project get destroyed by legal threats that we (developers, 
community members, and users) don't have the resources  to fight.  
Remember they don't have to take us to court--only to make it 
potentially too costly (in terms of time and/or money) for us to want to 
fight.  And I'll admit that it wouldn't take more than a pittance out of 
my own pocket or a tiny amount of my own time to sway me toward the "not 
worth fighting" side of the decision.