[mythtv-users] cutlist editing hangs frontend

Michael T. Dean mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Sat Nov 13 23:49:51 UTC 2010


  On 11/13/2010 06:34 PM, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 07:35:02AM -0800, Jim Stichnoth wrote:
>> I'm seeing something like this on some CBS 1080i recordings.  It only
>> happens on some seeks, but it is repeatable and hangs the frontend.
> it happens for me on every recording. my guess is that the editor can't
> handle raw DVB program streams.
>
>> It looks like doing a lossless transcoding before editing may make the
>> problem go away.
> thanks for that, a nice workaround for the problem.

Does rebuilding the seektable work?

> now if only the new cutlist editor wasn't clumsy and awkward compared
> to the 0.23 version:
>
>   - when using a keyboard, Enter no longer works to add/delete/move a
>     cutpoint. instead, you have to press M instead and then navigate
>     a multi-level menu.
>
>     I can't find any option in the Edit Keys setup screen to re-enable
>     the Enter key for this function.  It's possible that there is one,
>     but it isn't obvious.
>
>   - what used to be a simple operation to add/delete/move a cutpoint
>     is now a clumsy navigation of a multi-level menu requiring at least
>     twice as many keystrokes, making editing the cutlist much slower and
>     more tedious.
>
>   - it seems that new cut points have to be created as a Start&  End
>     pair, rather than as an individual cut point with a forward or back
>     direction.
>
>   - there seems to be no way to 'flip direction' on a cut point any more.
>     that was a very useful feature.
>
>   - when moving a cutpoint, it no longer detects the nearest cutpoint and
>     acts accordingly. you have choose from the menu whether you're moving
>     the start of the next cut or the end of the previous cut.
>
> none of these are showstopper problems, and i suppose i'll get used to
> the changes eventually - but WHY does every new release of mythtv seem
> to take something that was simple and straightforward and easy to use
> and make it clumsy and awkward to use? there are enough benefits in each
> new release to make it worthwhile to upgrade, but it seems that at least
> one major component suffers a serious usability regression every time
> (last time it was the way that the left&  right arrow keys worked in the
> menus - i've been using 0.23 for ages now and it's still annoying).

When things change, you must learn.  
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Editing_Recordings

But, hey, thanks for saying I wasted all the time I put into improving 
the editor, making it more consistent with MythTV in general, and so 
that you always have the option of performing any action, rather than 
being constrained to only those actions the autodetection thinks you 
want to do.

Mike


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