[mythtv-users] Is changing the source really necessary during LiveTV?

[mythtv at derdev.com]

On Sun, 30 May 2010 14:12:42 +0000 (UTC), Nasa <nasa01 at comcast.net> wrote:
> ----- mythtv at derdev.com wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 30 May 2010 12:41:52 +0000 (UTC), Nasa <nasa01 at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> > ----- mythtv at derdev.com wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I have 2 tuners as Comcast DTAs for SD.  I have 2 tuners as HDHRs
>> for
>> >> the
>> >> HD local broadcasts - signal also from Comcast.  I am using only
>> one
>> >> (1)
>> >> SchedulesDirect listing right now for both.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm able to watch LiveTV in SD or HD, but I must switch sources
>> using
>> >> the
>> >> LiveTV Menu which is very low WAF to have to "know" which source
>> is
>> >> providing the channels.  
>> >> 
>> >> What I want Myth to do is to provide a single integrated program
>> guide
>> >> and
>> >> to choose the "best", available tuner source for the program
>> selected
>> >> for
>> >> LiveTV.  In my vision of "correct", the user works from a
>> system-wide
>> >> program guide and views available programs via the "best"
>> available
>> >> tuner
>> >> for that show.  MythTV would be configured how to make this
>> decision. 
>> >> The
>> >> users wouldn't have to know a thing about how all the hardware is
>> >> tied
>> >> together.
>> >> 
>> >> This would allow Mythtv to deal with scheduled recordings that
>> occupy
>> >> tuners.  It will - most importantly - deal with the current
>> complexity
>> >> of
>> >> users having to know something about inputs vs. channels.  And,
>> this
>> >> would
>> >> allow me to add 1-2 HD Comcast tuners that will provide more
>> choice
>> >> yet
>> >> more complexity concerning the "best", available tuner.  
>> >> 
>> >> Am I an idiot for missing a key piece of the configuration?  Did I
>> do
>> >> it
>> >> backwards by having a single channel listing for multiple tuners
>> >> (tuner
>> >> types)? 
>> > 
>> > Yes, the problem is created by using a singe channel listing for
>> all
>> your
>> > tuners.
>> > 
>> >  I think there's a key piece of misconfiguration in my current
>> >> kit
>> >> since Myth cannot tell which channels are "bound" to which tuners,
>> so
>> >> maybe
>> >> I've created the problem.  HELP please.
>> >> 
>> > Create 2 listings -- one HD/SD and one SD only and apply to the
>> > appropriate tuners.
>> > That should eliminate the problems.  I do a similar thing by having
>> one
>> for
>> > digital (via comcast box/firewire) and analog (via comcast cable
>> (analog)).
>> > 
>> 
>> Hmmm...
>> 
>> So if I create listing, for each type of tuner, then you're saying
>> I'll
>> get a smart, integrated channel guide?  (between SD and HD?)
>> 
>> What happens when I add Comcast HD tuners that will overlap a few
>> channels
>> with the HDHRs?  Wouldn't I end up with duplicate listings for
>> something
>> like the local NBC affiliate?  How does that get addressed?  
>> 
>> THANKS!!!!!!!
> 
> Question 1: Yes
> Question 2: how will you get the programming from the HD tuner into 
> your myth box?  Let's assume HDPVR (for illustration).  You would
> then have 3 different lineups.  SD channels(analog), HD channels
broadcast 
> in the clear(HDHR), and All channels (HDPVR).  Scheduledirect only
allows
> for 2 listings per user (if I recall).  Use Scheduledirect to provide
> an analog listing and a complete listing.  Use the complete listing to 
> create a third listing (removing analog and encrypted channels).  The
last
> part I haven't tried, so maybe some one else on the list can comment on
> it...
> 
> 

Sorry, I'm back.  I've been working on this for quite a while and it's not
going the direction I'd hoped.