[mythtv-users] First ION desktop officially announced - Acer AspireRevo

[Brian Wood]

On Wednesday 08 April 2009 14:00:27 James Crow wrote:
> Brian Wood wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 April 2009 13:41:11 Glen Sagers wrote:
> >> Bill Williamson wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Simon Hobson <linux at thehobsons.co.uk
> >>> <mailto:linux at thehobsons.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Travis Tabbal wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         Good specs. For $300, it's certainly a contender. Even better
> >>>         would be to sell it as bare hardware without the OS and
> >>>         perhaps the HDD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     You can always take the OS back, tell them you don't accept the
> >>>     EULA, and demand your money back for the OS. The vendor is
> >>>     required to reimburse you for the price of the OS - that is the
> >>>     only way various legal systems have allowed the EULA to stand, by
> >>>     allowing the purchaser to reject it AFTER purchase when they are
> >>>     able to read the terms.
> >>>
> >>>     Expect "resistance" to the refund though.
> >>>
> >>>     I have to admit, I'm sort of itching to have a go at it !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How much do you bet they pay for it, though?  I'd guess under $15.
> >>
> >> I got $14 and some change from Dell for Vista home premium with very
> >> little resistance.  They asked if I'd used it, and when I said I hadn't,
> >> and wouldn't, they took about 5 minutes to process the refund, and it
> >> was back on the card within a couple of days.  Was it worth it?  Only as
> >> a moral victory!
> >
> > I wonder how much you might get (or have to pay them) to leave off the
> > crapware. Of course you owyuld have to "use" Windows to even see that I
> > guess.
>
> If you want a Dell without all the crap look at their Small/Medium
> Business website. I just checked and the option is there. Go to
> Dell.com->For Office->Workstation->Small & Medium Business. From there
> you can choose what OS. FreeDOS and Linux are both options as is Windows
> XP. The systems may cost more, but I think the components that go into
> the OptiPlex and Precision lines are better than those used in the
> Dimension and whatever else they sell to home users.

Certainly the graphics hardware in the Precision units is. I picked up one of 
those used from a vendor who thought it was a standard Latitude (and priced 
it accordingly). I've been very happy with that machine.

It really is an insult to give a $14 refund if you don't use Windows, and 
charge HOW much for it standalone? In some places this would be 
called "dumping", and be illegal. Quantity discounts are one thing, but this 
is ridiculous.

I'll bet they report it as a "sale", and charge the crapware suppliers for 
a "delivered installation", even though the products they (the C/W seller) 
paid to put on the box will never be seen by the buyer. The cost to keep 
track of that and properly credit the C/W vendor would probably exceed the 
amounts involved.

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