[mythtv-users] Fwd: Scheduling Conflicts?

[Michael T. Dean]

On 10/03/2007 12:53 AM, Jon wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> On 09/26/2007 12:05 AM, Jon wrote:
>>     
>>> I have some scheduling conflicts I need to understand. My priorities
>>> are set appropriately. I had Heroes set to record (find weekly,
>>> priority +25) and instead myth decided it wanted to record Amercian
>>> Bodyshop (find whenever, priority -2)
>>>
>>> Tonight it was set to record House, (weekly, priority +20) and
>>> instead wanted to record Eureeka (anytime, priority -3). I have
>>> overridden this, but would like to understand why it is scheduling
>>> things all funky. I missed heroes, and have to wait til the end of
>>> the week when it airs again (or download it)
>>>
>>> I understand that there may have not been another airing of the
>>> bodyshop or eureeka episodes (unlikely though, they air a lot) but
>>> wouldn't the priority override this setting?
>>>
>>> Please advise me on how to make this work so I can just forget about
>>> it and know my recordings are going to happen.
>>>       
>> You've told Myth it can do this.  In frontend settings:
>>     
> I've done nothing of the kind.
>   

Whether you change a setting or leave it at a default, you are telling
Myth how to behave with that setting.  So, you /did/ tell Myth it can do
what it did--unless you're trying to say that someone else (not you) is
responsible for your Myth box and its configuration.

In other words, I don't think you can blame Myth for having a setting
giving you an option that you didn't notice when you were configuring
your system.  You might be able to blame all the "No, we need useless
setting XXX" people who make it impossible to remove settings--even when
they are no longer useful--for making configuring Myth a challenge. 
But, still, how your Myth box is configured is your responsibility.

>> Reschedule Higher Priorities
>> Move higher priority programs to other cards and showings when  
>> resolving
>> conflicts.  This can be used to record lower priority programs that
>> would otherwise not be recorded, but risks missing a higher priority
>> program if the schedule changes.
>>     
> Well, this setting is set, but I know that nobody here did it. Is  
> that the default? If so, someone should reconsider that setting.
>   

And then someone will say, "Myth says there's a conflict because it's
trying to record Heroes on Monday, but it could record it on Saturday. 
How come it's too stupid to see that it could record all my shows by
recording Heroes later," or, "I missed Heroes because it was set to
record on Saturday but then it didn't air.  Myth sucks.  Someone should
fix it..."

The default was changed a year and 4 months ago (so it's been the
default for all of the 0.20 series of Myth (0.20, 0.20.1, 0.20.2, and
0.20-fixes), and I haven't heard of anyone complain about it until now. 
I don't know why Bruce changed it (he didn't mention anything about it
in his commit message), but regardless of whether the setting is enabled
or disabled by default, those who decide to flip it will feel the
default should be the opposite.

>> I know for a fact, that Heroes had a rerun scheduled.  I'd guess the
>> same is true of House (though I didn't research it).
> Yep.
>> If you want highest-priority shows first--even if it means missing a
>> lower-priority show--disable the above setting.  Not that disabling  
>> the
>> setting means you'll get Heroes.  With the setting enabled, you might
>> not get it as the rerun could be cancelled (i.e. the schedule may  
>> change
>> before the rerun airs and something else may be shown instead).   
>> That's
>> exactly why there's a big fat warning in the help text for the  
>> setting.
>>     
> Yea, saw that and fixed it. So far, seems to be working right. Wonder  
> how it got set to reschedule them. This explains TONS of my recording  
> woes since I've gotten this system set up (this particular database  
> was from a fresh 0.19 build in which I inserted the programs table  
> from my 0.18 database and linked all the files from my old myth  
> install (80 gig drive mounted at /myth2) into the new myth recording  
> dir (200 gig drive mounted at /myth)
>
> I don't know. *shrugs* oh well. Glad to know that was the problem,  
> and glad that it won't reschedule them anymore... I was so annoyed,  
> it's like, what is the point of the priority if it's just going to  
> ignore it and record what it wants... but now it seems to work. Guess  
> the better solution for the future is to go get myself a couple more  
> cards (I have 3 DirecTV boxes, only 1 currently hooked up to a  
> capture device)

Glad it's working for you, now.  And, now that you know which way you
want that setting set, it won't be an issue for you.

Mike