[mythtv-users] 350 Tv Out vs. Nvidia 5200

Bryan Halter bhalter at armyofpenguins.com
Mon Oct 31 15:06:32 EST 2005


I too noticed the problem with Bob and flickering OSD.  I was plesently
surprised when after switching to the MediaCenter theme for the OSD that
flickering went away.  :).  Its a lot nicer tooking than the blue box in
the corner IMO.

On Oct 31, 2005 07:49 PM, Joe Votour <joevph at yahoo.com> wrote:

>Where the PVR-350 shines for me that it recognizes
>whether the content is interlaces or not, and handles
>it appropriately (so say the log messages on the
>console). This is really nice because then I don't
>have to use Bob to deinterlace, which makes the OSD
>flicker.. (The other deinterlacing methods are not
>good enough to get scrolling messages, especially on
>ESPN to display without jitter/tearing).
>
>However, despite that, I'm likely to go back to my
>5200FX, since at least I don't have to play with
>screen sizes to get it working.
>
>-- Joe
>
>--- mythtv-users at fastdruid.co.uk wrote:
>
>>Jesse wrote:
>>>Jesse Guardiani wrote:
>>>>Dave wrote:
>>>>>On 8/23/05, Mark Gardner <markgard at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>>>Can anyone comment on the quality comparison
>>between the two
>>>>>>abovementioned chipsets?
>>
>>Well just to add my 2p, I've had a PVR-350 running
>>for about a year with
>>TV/X out,
>>I've just swapped to a nvidia Geforce4
>>MX440/128Mb/AGP 8x
>>
>>PVR-350:
>>Advantages:
>>Picture quality - Supposedly better[0]
>>Hardware en/decoding - low processor usage, ideal
>>for low spec 'silent'
>>frontends[1]
>>
>>Disadvantages:
>>It's physically fscking huge - wont for example fit
>>in a pundit-R without
>>case modifications
>>Not 100% stable - crashes under ff/rew sometimes
>>(ivtv v0.3.8/mythtv 18.1
>>fwiw. May be better with later versions)
>>No games
>>No boot msg's - If you care (I don't and have a
>>serial console if I want
>>boot msgs)
>>Problems with DVD's (much better with XV support)
>>Not pretty on bootup (pops and different
>>colours->distorted image/last image
>>before shutdown->kde splash->kde->mythtv), can have
>>driver loaded earlier)
>>No hauppauge driver support
>>some mythtv functions don't work (vol control etc)
>>No VGA/DVI
>>Cost
>>
>>
>>MX440 (5200 or similar should be better)
>>Advantages:
>>Cheap
>>Stable
>>nvidia driver support
>>Games
>>DVD'S
>>DVI/VGA
>>Prettier on bootup (blank screen->nvidia splash(if
>>turned on)->suse late
>>splash->(kde but for a split second and don't see
>>it)->mythtv), depending on
>>card/setup can have entire bootup from bios splash
>>into mythtv.
>>Easily replaceable/upgradeable hardware with _no_
>>config changes (new nvidia
>>card, just pop it in, single driver means config
>>and driver
>>won't change)
>>
>>Disadvantages:
>>Picture quality - supposedly worse[0]
>>Uses processing power[1]
>>Might be tricky to find a fanless one (I don't
>>recommend it but if you're
>>not playing taxing games you _might_ be safe
>>to just unplug the fan, mine's died and the card
>>works fine [and at
>>20-30quid for a 'upgrade' replacement I won't worry
>>_too_ much if it dies])
>>
>>FWIW IMHO unless you want a silent low powered
>>machine or don't have an AGP
>>slot I'd say save the pennies
>>(or cents) and just get a cheap nvidia card.
>>
>>Anyone want to buy a PVR-350?
>>
>>Druid
>>
>>[0] TBH I can't see it but then again I've not got
>>that nice a TV[2], on a
>>BFO projector you might.
>>[1] On a very unscientific test I got the following
>>on playback:
>>SuSE 9.1/2.6.11-rc2-bk3-20050125153357-default
>>PVR-350
>>P4/3GHz/800Mhz (HT DISABLED)
>>0.0-0.7% cpu
>>
>>SuSE 10.0/2.6.13-15-smp
>>MX440
>>P4/2.8GHz/533Mhz (HT ENABLED)
>>6.5-8.5%
>>
>>[2] Currently shopping for one though :-)
>>
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