[mythtv-users] Motherboard / case suggestions for early 2022 backend

[Ian Evans]

On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 5:11 PM Hika van den Hoven, <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi Ian,
>
> Saturday, December 11, 2021, 6:00:19 PM, you wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 10:02 AM Stephen Worthington, <
> stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 07:59:12 -0600, you wrote:
> >
>  >>
>  >>Ian:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>>>> Of course, I'm deciding that I might want to build a modern system
> as
>  >>>>> the old combo  front/backend was limited in speed and memory.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> As I peruse possible holiday sales, I wanted to pick yer brains.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> - Will be a backend only, probably using Shield/Chromecast as
> frontend
>  >>>>> - most of the budget will be for at least a couple of 12+ TB NAS
>  >>>>> drives for recordings/video library
>  >>>>> - AMD? Intel? Speed? Cores?
>  >>>>> - motherboard suggestions? Perhaps an NVME for OS/database, but
> enough
>  >>>>> SATA connections for possible expansion past two storage drives.
>  >>>>> - case: current case is just over a foot tall. Limited bays. Would
>  >>>>> like a case that can hold at least four 3.5 inch drives.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> If anyone has built a backend lately, I'd love to hear your choices.
> > <snip>
> >  When I got my new AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU, the cooler that came with
> >  that (a Wraith Prism) was fine for the job.  I believe it is a
> >  rebadged Cooler Master product.  It even has RGB lighting.
> >
> >  A CPU at Ryzen 7 level is overkill for MythTV.  I put an AMD Ryzen 3
> >  3100 into my mother's MythTV box when it was upgraded, and that is way
> >  more than enough, when coupled with 16 Gibytes of RAM and a fast PCIe
> >  v3 NVMe SSD.  The cooler that came with that is fine as well, but
> >  nothing fancy like the Wraith Prism.  I was really impressed with just
> >  how fast the Ryzen 3 3100 is.  But when I got my Ryzen 7 3700X, it
> >  turns out that it is literally "blink and you miss it" fast - if you
> >  blink while the screen is updating, you can miss that anything has
> >  changed because it has all happened before your eyes open again.
> >
> >  For a new MythTV box these days, a Ryzen 3 is fine.  I would put more
> >  money into getting a better NVMe SSD than into a faster CPU.  And 8
> >  Gibytes of RAM is getting to be necessary if your database is growing.
> >  MythTV does a lot of things by putting big lists in RAM, such as the
> >  list of all your recordings or all your videos.  My database is
> >  massive (> 50,000 recordings), so with only 8 Gibytes of RAM in my
> >  main MythTV box (AMD FX-4100, Asus M5A97 Evo motherboard), it does
> >  swap unused parts of mythfrontend out to disk.  But that is not
> >  impacting performance (yet).  The old motherboard with only 4 Gibytes
> >  of RAM that it replaced was really struggling, with the then much
> >  smaller database.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Great input from everyone. I appreciate it.
>
>
> > Stephen,
>
>
> > Good to hear a Ryzen 3 will suffice. Memory seems to be the area I
> > should look at. The old system was running both MythTV and a one
> > camera Zoneminder (don't need more, it's an apartment). I might want
> > to run the occasional Windows session in a VM. I'm a film reviewer
> > and some of the studios' secure screening platforms are Windows
> > only. I use HDHomerun's for my tuners.
>
>
> > Guess I need to check out cases next. Don't need any clear sides as
> > where it'll be placed I don't need to see any RGB. :-)
>
>
> > On a side note, continued thanks to the list. Everyone is so
> > helpful with their ideas and generous with their time.
>
> >
>
> For a silent case I can recommend Antec. They have a special silent
> line with case fans included. With an 3-way switch on the front you
> can turn them off or put them in overdrive. At normal speed they make
> less noise then your drives. I recently bought the Antec P101 Silent
> and am very pleased with it. This one has 8 easily accessible 3.5"
> bays, 2 2.5" bays and 1 dvd bay, but they have them in several
> flavors. They are well designed to get a good airflow.
>
>
> Hika,

Thanks for the case recommendation. Nice looking and plenty of drive bays.
Also good note on the raid card if I go that way.

Anyone have thoughts on the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4
Motherboard? (
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570%20phantom%20Gaming%204/index.asp)


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