[mythtv-users] [SOLVED-ish] Thinking of moving on from MythTV ... I found the main problem, but still have 292e woes

[Damian]

On 23/04/2017 10:46, Mike Perkins wrote:
> On 23/04/17 10:09, Damian wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 23/04/2017 10:01, Mark Perkins wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23 April 2017 6:19:20 PM Damian <myth at surr.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 21/04/2017 22:58, Mark Perkins wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 22 April 2017 6:17:14 AM John Veness
>>> >> <John.Veness.mythtv at pelago.org.uk> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On 21 April 2017 21:02:26 BST, Damian <myth at surr.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> >>That didn't work. The old tuners set up fine. They scanned
>>> great, got
>>> >> >>all of the channels. but then the frontend did the exact same
>>> thing.
>>> >> >>Flicked back to the main menu whenever I pressed "Watch TV".
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What happens if you go into the program guide, pick a channel,
>>> press
>>> >> Menu then choose Watch This Channel?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Alternatively, do scheduled recordings work?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > John
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----------
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree with John (both of them actually), definitely try entering
>>> >> LiveTV via the program guide. That might have worked for the 292e
>>> as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just remember to press the menu key in the program guide to get the
>>> >> watch tv popup option.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > IT ALL WORKS!!! :-)
>>> >
>>> > Going to the channel via the program guide was the answer. I don't
>>> know
>>> > why I had to do that, as I did set an existing start channel each
>>> time,
>>> > but who cares! It's working now! :-)
>>> >
>>> > Getting the 3 tuners to work together was the next problem. For a
>>> while,
>>> > I could only get 2 at a time working, and the HD one was always the
>>> one
>>> > to go.
>>> >
>>> > However, after lots of trial and error, and trying different tuners in
>>> > different USB ports, they now all seem to be working! And yes, it's
>>> > surviving reboots.
>>> >
>>> > So not only do I have a working system again (after MONTHS of not
>>> > knowing the signal amplifier had died) for less than �10. I also
>>> have HD
>>> > TV working for the first time, via a tuner that I've been unable to
>>> get
>>> > working for about 18 months.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks so much everyone!
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Damian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> Great to hear it is now working! Doing a delete all on all hosts
>>> might be worth while at some
>>> point when you have spare time (if you haven't already) but if it is
>>> working for now spend some
>>> time enjoying it first.
>>>
>>> Will be worth keeping an eye on things after reboots - I believe
>>> there have been reports of tuners
>>> maintaining the same initialisation order 9 times out of 10 but that
>>> time it doesn't can be
>>> frustrating to sort out. The use of udev rules can overcome this,
>>> there have been previous threads
>>> about how to create otherwise if you have trouble post another thread
>>> there are a couple of people
>>> on this list who are quite good with them.
>>>
>>
>> I've set up a /etc/modprobe.d/dvb.conf file, so not having a problem
>> with the order changing. The HD
>> one would randomly stop working whenever I added all 3 tuners, but the
>> order of them was still fine.
>>
>> It seemed to matter which USB port I put which tuner into, which I
>> don't undersand, but while it's
>> working I don't care what voodoo is going on there! :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by 'Doing a delete all on all hosts', but I
>> did "Delete all cards" on the
>> setup every time I made a change.
>>
> 'Delete all cards' does what it says on the tin: it deletes the cards
> related to the host you are working on. Since mythtv can have multiple
> backends, according to circumstances, it will leave anything else
> related to card details in the database. This includes *the card
> numbers*. Any new cards you add will get a new card number in excess of
> those previously added.
>
> 'Delete all cards on all hosts' clears the whole table out. This also
> has the effect of resetting the ID numbers each card gets to zero. This
> means that the first new card you add gets #0, the next gets #1 and so
> on. This means that you get reliable card numbers and channel numbers
> each time, and that you can ensure any setup information created is
> repeatable.
>

Ah, I see. Thanks Mike.
Damian