[mythtv-users] OT: (a bit) Verizon router is it needed?

[Kris Jensen]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Kris Jensen <kris.jensen.knj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> <off_topic_for_this_list>
>
> > Is anyone knowledgeable on Verizon stuff? Is that statement correct ?
>
> The answer is, yes, you can use your own router, but
> depending on the specifics, it will likely cost you far
> more than the (one time) $60 that Verizon is charging
> for their newer router (no recurring charges with the
> new router, apparently).  So you have to decide if
> this is the way you want to invest your resources.
>
> Discussion
>
> Depending on your current connection, the old device
> is performing one or more of the following functions:
>
>   * Moca ethernet bridge
>   * NAT router functions
>   * Wireless connectivity
>
> Some chose to purchase a combined router and
> wireless device (it is common in the consumer
> space).
>
> If you have some of the higher FiOS speeds you
> need to chose the device carefully because many
> older (or cheaper) models simply cannot perform at
> speed.
>
> One should be able to purchase a Moca ethernet
> bridge (there are very few consumer routers that
> include the moca bridge functionality) and then
> just plug the (new) router into the bridge (which
> plugs into the coax).
>
> Alternatively, in some cases you can connect a
> Ethernet cable from your router into the ONT, but:
>
>    * In some ONT's, the port is physically blocked
>    * Most ONT's are located outside, so:
>      - You have to run a Ethernet cable to the ONT
>         which means:
>          . You may need to drill in the side of the
>             residence
>          . You have to protect against rodents
>             (yes, they will chew the cable)
>          . You have to provide lightning protection
>             for the Ethernet cable and the upstream
>             equipment (induced voltages can destroy
>             their ports)(*).
>    * FiOS may have to enable the ethernet port
>      (and disable the ONT Moca bridge function).
>
> Depending in the specifics, you may end up having
> to have a Verizon Tech replace/upgrade the ONT.
>
>
>
>
> (*) Lightning protection is an advanced discussion
> all on its own, and in any case, has to meet your
> local jurisdictions codes (which are usually based
> on NFPA 70, but can vary).
>
>
> </off_topic_for_this_list>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
Many thanks Gary,

I had thought that Verizon was charging >$130 for the newer router. That
price was offered to me in a older email (a year ago or so).

Ya for a $60 one time fee it may worth it to not go through Verizon's
support chain to enable the cat5 port on the ONT. I know it the ONT has
one, I have opened the ONT to look at it's options.

Right now the Verizon router is only being as a "dumb router" Wifi is not
enabled, and the only device connected to the router is a firewall
appliance (through a DMZ port), then behind that is my DHCP/routing and
wireless AP. solution for my network.

Getting wires to the ONT is not a problem. I wired my house.

So it looks as if I wanted to go without Verizon router I could, If a felt
like dealing with Verizon support that is.


Thanks again,

Kris
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