[mythtv-users] H265 support

[Andre Newman]

On 13 Apr 2015, at 12:21, Simon Hobson <linux at thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:

> Andre Newman <mythtv-list at dinkum.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> In fact there seems to be an attitude of keep reducing the quality until we get complaints. Additionally there is a general amazement amongst Engineering types at how low the quality can go before anyone much rings up to complain!
> 
> There's a difference between noticing and actually complaining. It's clear from various lists/forums that people do notice carp quality (see some of the "criticisms" of DAB for example). But few of those will think it's worth complaining.

This is why I brought it up.

To everyone not Simon: 

If you notice a drop in quality ring up the Broadcaster AND Cable company or Satellite provider and tell them, don’t use technical terms or you’ll be disregarded as one of those "tech types who are never happy whatever we do” just tell them the picture is fuzzier or jerkier than it was last week, helpful if it’s just one or two channels, tell them that the other (competitors) channels are fine so it can’t be your TV. Also ring them up, none of these people take emails or especially forum posts seriously, possibly tweeting about it has more impact these days but most Broadcaster senior management are very old school, even if the social media department gets heated Management may not care.


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> That's why I keep telling people (about various things) - if there's something wrong, says something about it. It may not actually cause any change, but each complaint makes it harder for <whoever> to just take the attitude that "if no-one complains then there's nothing wrong”.

Exactly, well said.

It’s especially a problem in the UK, we rarely complain, so we often get poor service/products/prices etc. At least that does mean when we do complain it’s more notable.

Of course a new codec means a different "look” to over compressed material so this will be taken as an opportunity to squeeze the wringer a little more. On top of that the encoder manufacturers outrageous claims might well be believed and acted on!

I was shown in all seriousness a demo of UHD football at 8Mbps by one encoder manufacturer, truly awful. The worst part was they seemed proud of it.

I haven’t seen enough h265 yet to have a eye for it’s look, the over compressed stuff I’ve seen at 15 and 20Mbps for UHD just looks soft and much like over compressed h264.

Andre