[mythtv-users] modernizing mythtv

[John Morris]

On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 14:13 +0100, Mike Perkins wrote:
> On 09/05/14 01:27, John Morris wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 22:33 -0500, Saul A. Peebsen wrote:
> >
> >> No need for SSH, X has native feature to be accessed remotely, SSH is
> >> needed only if accessed over untrusted network. You can have an X app
> >> installed in a remote box - no X needed in this box - and you can run
> >> this app from any box that has X installed. It is amazing how people do
> >> not remember basics.
> >
> > Tried it lately?  Most modern distributions 'discourage' the practice.
> > The local X server won't be bound to a TCP port out of the box and if
> > iptables is running it will block any outside connection anyway.  And
> > fixing it gets harder and harder every year.  And Wayland will put a
> > final end to remote X unless you install an X11 emulation layer exactly
> > like Windows folk must.
> >
> Huh? The X server runs on the box you sit in front of. The ports are standard. 
> iptables? You only get that (on Debian, at least) if you ask for it.

Take a look at a default install some time.  X is bound to the local
UNIX Domain only, not to TCP/IP.  Been that way on RH derived installs
since RHEL4 at least.  You have to manually adjust GDM to invoke X with
a switch to enable network support now.  You need to add this
to /etc/gdm/custom.conf:

[security]
DisallowTCP=false

> And if Wayland doesn't have a networking option it will be of limited use to 
> most *nix users.

That is exactly what they have in mind.  They disabled the network a
decade ago and nobody marched with pitchforks and torches so they see no
reason to care what we think.  *NIX users are not the target audience
anymore, we allowed too many refugees in from Windows and they took
over, their cultural values now dominate the decision process.  Network
transparency is no longer even seen as a virtue.  And don't even get me
going on systemd and it's blatant move to adopt Service Manager and
Event logging from Windows.


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