[mythtv-users] mythbuntu theme 28.16

[Thomas Mashos]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Michael Watson
<michael at thewatsonfamily.id.au> wrote:
> On 21/12/2014 6:40 PM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:26 AM, John Finlay <finlay at moeraki.com> wrote:
>> ....
>>>
>>> The problem is that a change made at the request of one user without
>>> checking with other users seems odd. If you are going to make a change of
>>> such magnitude wouldn't it seem logical to check with other users to see
>>> if
>>> that would seem too disruptive? It seems strange that you would make a
>>> change that satisfied one user but alienated dozens of users.
>>
>> Asserting facts not in evidence (i.e. the number of people
>> who thought it was good vs bad)(*), and, regardless, your
>> opinion (or my opinion) is not really relevant.  The only
>> persons' opinion that matters is the creator/owner/artist
>> who has to please only himself.  If it is appreciated by
>> others, so much the better, but it is not a requirement.
>> And nothing is forcing you to use that particular theme.
>> Just as the author has free choice, so you do too.
>>
>> It seems to me that since you have such strong opinions
>> regarding doing it better you should fork the theme and
>> show everyone how well the process and result can be
>> done.  That is the beauty of open source.  If you want it
>> different, and you and the original author do not share the
>> same vision, you can just go do it.  No one is standing in
>> your way, and you should have plenty of help based on
>> your claims of numbers of alienation.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> (*) And there is a selection bias.  Those that do not
>> like something tend to complain/criticize/object,
>> while those that like it, or are ambivalent, tend to be
>> quiet (the silent majority).
>
> Or the group of people that are wary of expressing there opinion because of
> all to often statement like "The only persons' opinion that matters is the
> creator/owner/artist who has to please only himsel", "If you want it
> different, and you and the original author do not share the same vision, you
> can just go do it", and "The change went though the normal approval process
> ( I approved it )".  Statements like these are not helpful either.
>
> If you are only developing for yourself, then you would keep it to yourself.
> As you are not being paid or forced to do any development, and your work is
> being committed to the public arena, then you are looking for some sort of
> gratification, and should be expecting some negative feedback.

This is a false assumption. Just because I release something doesn't
mean I am looking for some sort of gratification. If you've followed
this list for any amount of time, then you'll definitely agree that I
(the sole Mythbuntu theme developer) am not looking for gratification
(unless I'm a Masochist).

>As is human
> nature, you generally receive four times the negative feedback than you do
> positive feedback.  How you handle negative (and positive) feedback is
> entirely up to the relevant developer, but to attack someone for expressing
> their view is entirely uncalled for.
>

People can express their views all they want, but don't be offended
when people ask what you don't like about the changes.


> I have not seen anybody demand that the theme be returned to its prior
> state, merely suggestions that the way the theme(s) are released could be
> improved.
>

Perhaps not in this particular thread (although I've been told in this
thread repeatedly that I need to split off into a new theme if I want
to do any changes).

I suppose I could change how I release theme updates. Would you like
to be on the board of directors?

> Personally I (and my family) dislike all the themes that use the rotating
> around the central position style of layout in the video's section  (like
> Mythbuntu theme has recently switched to, and several others use).  So I
> *choose* not to use these themes.  By the number of themes using this style
> my view is clearly a minority (amongst theme developers anyway), which is
> pushing me (and my family) to using an alternative product for frontend use.
>

Any particular reason you don't like that? Also, there are different
views for the videos section.

>
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Thanks,

Thomas Mashos