[mythtv-users] [mythtv-commits] mythtv/master commit: eed7862e8 by Raymond Wagner (wagnerrp)

[Steven Adeff]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
> On 03/13/2012 07:47 AM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2012 04:28 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>>>> On 03/11/2012 01:53 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my parents 0.24.2 setup, if I run with dd-grab-all it adds all the
>>>>>> channels in my schedulesdirect lineup to all my sources, which causes
>>>>>> my QAM tuners to try and tune cable channels. I don't see any of the
>>>>>> options for mythfilldatabase that will prevent it from adding channels
>>>>>> to the sources when running a grab. Is there a way to do this? right
>>>>>> now in testing I'm having to dump the channels table and restore from
>>>>>> a few days ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to not be doing this on my 0.25b setup though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>> Sounds like you're either using the not visible channels hack (to hide
>>>>> the untunable channels on the source you don't want them) or running
>>>>> mythfilldatabase with --remove-new-channels on the working setup, and
>>>>> you're not on the broken setup.
>>>> Ah, yes, on the setup that is working I do have some channels set with
>>>> visible=0.
>>>>
>>>> So should I be running with --remove-new-channels when I run
>>>> --dd-grab-all to avoid this issue?
>>> Or set up the channels you don't want the QAM tuners using as not
>>> visible in the QAM video source.
>> so create two sources in schedulesdirect, one for the QAM and one for
>> cable and link them separately in MythTV?
>
> Well, assuming the QAM tuners are tuning with their internal tuners
> (i.e. using ATSC major/minor numbers) and the cable tuners are analog
> encoders that use "frequency ID" (which is likely a channel number sent
> to a channel change script that changes channel on an STB), you should
> have 2 different video sources--because they tune channels differently.
> (Video Source is a list of channels available on an input /and/
> information about how to tune those channels.)
>
> Note, also, that if a video source is connected to a digital input (and
> only a digital input), mythfilldatabase should not attempt to add
> channels to the video source (since it realizes that you need to scan
> for those channels).  So, if you have a single video source connected to
> a digital (scannable) and analog (non-scannable) input, that probably
> explains why it's trying to add channels to your QAM video source.

sorry, right, my bad on the nomenclature.

I have two sources, one for the QAM tuner (yes, by frequency), and one
for the cable tuners (HDPVR's) but channel number using a channel
change script.

running mythfilldatabase without --remove-new-channels causes the
channels available on schedulesdirect (for use by the HDPVRs) to be
added to the source for the QAM tuner.

>> Also, oddly, ever since I ran the --dd-grab-all on that machine even
>> if I go back to just using the commands I was previously using of
>> --refresh-today --refresh-second it is still adding all the channels
>> to the QAM source.
>>
>> that was a frustrating realization =P
>
> FWIW, --dd-grab-all has no bearing on whether channels will be added or
> not.  So, this may have been happening before, but testing --dd-grab-all
> just made you notice it?

previous to this "ordeal", I had --refresh-today --refresh-second as
arguments for mythfilldatabase, I may have added --remove-new-channels
as well, though I don't remember now.

It sounds like, however, regardless, I should be able to run with
--dd-grab-all without --remove-new-channels and the source for the QAM
tuner should not add those channels. So to add to this, the QAM tuner
is a Ceton card but without a cablecard (Time Warner), could it be
that Myth sees this as a digital tuner that should be updated with the
new channels and not as a QAM tuner that should not?

running with --remove-new-channels for now "solves" the situation.

-- 
Steve
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Steveadeff
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