[mythtv-users] ramfs for mysql

Steven Adeff adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 14:14:33 UTC 2012

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/2012 14:43, Steven Adeff wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, jk90090<jk90090 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 1/5/12 8:36 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:
>>>> Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>>> The fact that a page has appeared several times just shows that people
>>>>> who don't know what they're doing are fiddling around with MySQL.
>>>> Then the correct response isn't to delete all references and leave
>>>> them in the dark - it's leave the page up and add what you've written
>>>> here as to why is shouldn't be done.
>>>> Otherwise, next time someone comes along as has the same idea, the
>>>> same discussion will get repeated - which is not good use of anyone's
>>>> time.
>>> I tend to agree with this line of though, but I "raise" you that it
>>> would be really useful if some of these threads ended up being
>>> summarized and posted to the some sort of wiki so future Mythers don't
>>> have to wade through endless threads to find the nuggets of useful
>>> data.  Sometime this happens on the wiki, but as shown by this thread it
>>> seems sometimes it doesn't...
>>> -JK
>> I think it would be more useful for the page to exist, if only to say
>> this is unsupported and we won't support saying how to do it in the
>> place where people will search for it (ie the direct page), then just
>> create a category for these pages to exist in, that category will live
>> on as the compiled source of these things.
>> But as others have said, to just delete it only begs for this type of
>> thing to come up again and again.
> Perhaps, but the wiki isn't a good place for this kind of information.
> The existing wishlist pages fulfill a similar purpose, and there are
> enough duplicates that result on those because the user can't be
> bothered to read all the way through them (or perhaps understand them)
> before posting a new one.  The mediawiki search algorithm is simply too
> awful to make the pages usable.

I'm confused, how is the wishlist page a similar purpose?

What we're debating over are the idea of wiki pages that have
information on alternate methods of running MythTV systems that do not
fall into areas that the dev's feel is an area they want to have to
provide any level of support for.

The discussion is whether to completely ignore users looking into this
and pretend the ideas don't exist and deal with explaining why they
are "bad" every time, or having a wiki page that basically says,
"while this method of running a MythTV system exists and is possible,
it is an area that the MythTV community does not feel is a safe
operating procedure and does not wish to support the implementation
thereof"; followed by a summary of reasons, from the discussions, on
this mailing list as to why it is deemed unsafe and worthy of a lack
of support for. Perhaps followed up with a "DO NOT ASK ABOUT THIS ON
THE MAILINGLIST", or some such warning.

None of what gets discussed and "shot down" in this regard is
information that cannot be found elsewhere and could not be
implemented anyway by determined users, but many could be easily
dissuaded from attempting to do so because of these arguments.

The wishlist, as I understand it, is a repository of ideas users have
had that would make the MythTV software a better system in their eyes,
with the hope that a developer may see one, agree, and work on
implementing it.

To be honest, I don't see why you are pushing so hard against this, as
it would seem to free up more of your time with not having to respond
to mailinglist threads every time they pop up.

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