[mythtv-users] missing tv schedules

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
> On 02/19/2012 08:06 PM, jameskel wrote:
>> I am using one multiplexed channel which contains 11 tv stations.
>>
>> In FE (watching tv), tv schedules for 9 stations appear but 2 don't.
>> In BE (Video Sources), I am using Listings Grabber: "Transmitted Guide Only (EIT)"
>> Channel Frequency Table: us-cable
>>
>> How can I drill into this problem to understand why this is happening?
>>
>> How can I determine if the station is broadcasting EIT or not?
>>
>>
>> PS - I've already asked for help with this issue in ubuntuforums/mythbuntu - no joy
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922430
>
> You could buy a membership to Schedules Direct for $25/yr (=
> ~$0.07/day), support the Free/Libre Open Source Software community,
> and--in so doing--get free, high-quality listings that will make MythTV
> far more useful than US EIT--especially since cable companies have no
> incentive to provide EIT data (in fact, their incentive is to not
> provide such data to make it more likely that you'll use their
> equipment), so many do not provide it for any channels they are not
> required to provide it with (and, TTBOMK, if they have to provide any
> EIT data at all, it's only for the local TV channels that you would be
> able to receive OTA with an antenna).
>
> If you want things like duplicate matching and series recording and such
> to work, reliably, you will need high-quality listings data.  The
> listings data you get for free with a Schedules Direct membership is the
> same data that TiVo users pay ~$15/mo to receive.  And, IME, it's some
> of the best listings data available to MythTV users anywhere in the
> entire world.
>
> Note that MythTV is Free software.  A MythTV system, however, is an
> expensive luxury DVR solution.  When you look at the cost of buying
> hardware; the time you spend installing, configuring, maintaining,
> learning, and keeping up with changes to MythTV; and the cost of
> replacing hardware, such as failed HDDs (versus just calling the cable
> company and having them replace the DVR they're providing for $10/mo),
> MythTV is not at all free.  The $25/yr I spend on my Schedules Direct
> membership is a negligible fraction of the money I've spent on my MythTV
> system (which isn't all that impressive compared to many on the
> list--especially considering none of my frontend or backend systems have
> cost me more than $250).  The benefits of spending that $25/yr
> (including supporting the F/LOSS community as well as getting those free
> listings) make me happy to spend that money.
>
> If you want to spend many hours of your free time to try to save $25/yr,
> feel free to do so (just how much is your free time worth to you,
> anyway?).  Just search for dvbsnoop and all the information about how to
> use it--and the EIT standards and requirements, as well as US and local
> requirements, to figure out just what to expect--and start
> investigating.  Note, though, that there's unlikely to be any "quick
> information" or "quick solutions" to your problem--as most MythTV users
> in the US have chosen to become Schedules Direct members, so that they
> may support the F/LOSS community and get the free, high-quality listings
> data available to members.  Not to mention the fact that what data is
> available on the channels your local cable company re-broadcasts is up
> to your local cable company, so it's quite likely no one in your local
> area has done any real research into the availability of EIT on your
> re-broadcast-by-your-cable-company channels.  (Where, again, the cable
> company is best served not providing EIT data, but using a proprietary
> listings data stream that's accessible by cable-company-provided
> equipment--their STBs--only.)
>
> Mike, a proud member of Schedules Direct, and supporter of F/LOSS
> software development

Thats kinda what i told him in the forums, but it appears he is a non believer!