[mythtv-users] Live TV playback frustration

Thu Aug 23 14:29:45 UTC 2012

On 23-08-2012 16:17, Thomas Mashos wrote: 

> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012
at 7:12 AM, <mikkel at broerne.dk> wrote:
> 
>> On 23-08-2012 15:55, Thomas
Mashos wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Nick Rout
<nick.rout at gmail.com [1]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM,
<mikkel at broerne.dk [2]> wrote: On 23-08-2012 11:10, Nick Rout wrote: On
Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:16 PM, <mikkel at broerne.dk [3]> wrote: I thought I
would through in my thoughts and the reason why I chose Mythtv. Reasons
for me choosing Mythtv: 1) I live in Denmark and have only access to
SAT-TV and had a sat-box with buildt in DVR... so a combo of live tv and
DVR. 2) I could not watch my shows at the same time as the kids or wife
and the other way around. Open war when I wanted to watch sports. 3) I
did not want to install full coax cable throughout the house and have
sat boxes all over the place. I had gigabit network and wifi. 4) I love
the stability and simplicity of linux 5) I am no fan of Microsoft or
Apple and fully support open source Same for me to all the above ('cept
I don't have gigE, but 100 is fine). But I HAVE trained the family off
live tv. The kids often used to ask "Can you set up X to record, it's on
Thursdays on Prime" - once I did it a few times they learned how to do
it and now they do it themselves. I really have worked hard on the
"don't watch crap just cos it is on, watch something you like, something
we have recorded". Mind you I was never a channel surfer, always
preferred to watch a whole show, or if I didn't know there was something
on I wanted to watch, do something else. Read a book, go to the pub, go
to the art gallery, visit a friend. I also have a rule against changing
the music half way through a song, at worst you fade it out, otherwise
change the music in a quiet bit! While I have never had to ban liveTV to
change habits, it might be worth banning yourself from it for a week or
two and see how it goes :) Why is Live-TV essential for for my family 1)
bad TV habits - and I say bad because life is too short to spend on ½ a
show or mindless reality junk, but then again so is eating at McD's
compared to cooking a meal from scratch. I do both so shoot me. 2)
Recording everything would call for better organization of the recording
i.e. moving movies to MythVideo - Mike you support mythvidexport.py, but
I tried and it does not work, which is do to my EPG not being in English
(see thread on this topic.) And by the way Mike thanks for the help -
you were spot on. 3) WAF 4) The "thrill" of watching sports live is
completely removed by watching a recording even a 10 minute delay sucks
in my book. I wish I could do some programming at the level all the
dev's can. This way I could help improve the organization of recordings.
Sadly, as it is now, we have a hard time sifting through all our movies
and favorite shows. I cannot imagine also recording stuff that I might
like and all the junk my wife and kids watch :-D Currently I am stuck on
.24 and based on the dialog in this thread I will be for some time.
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http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users [7] My day-to-day
work can be summed up to Change Management. So I will always argue to
try a change, but it can not be forced without a risk of it blowing up
in your face. As I tried to write, we record everything of interest -
only exception is sports. We have used it for 1½ year and recorded close
to 750 shows The kids do record, but don't always watch it - there is
too much unorganized stuff. Yep, especially so if your kids programmes
are generally quite short, there are a lot of 15 minute kids cartoons,
you end up with an awful lot of show names. As I see it there is a
general need for 1) stable LiveTV + 2) improved interface/organization
for recording i.e. moving recordings to Video which is a superb idea,
but the method I tried does not work. Agreed on both counts. What I want
to do is 1) always (job queue) move all movies to Video -> does not work
2) have a general rule that records new shows all the time on our most
favorite channels (and delete within 24 hours) Allowing users to "time
travel" -> the interface is not that good for this purpose. In general I
guess the GUI/OSD is why many users use xbmc as a "frontend"?? Yes there
is a lot to like about XBMC! There is a lot to like about myth. Take the
best out of both and we'd be there....
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http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users [9] Regarding moving
recorded movies to videos, would it not be better to have mythtv
recordings show only TV shows from both videos and recordings storage
group and have mythvideo show only movies from both recordings and
storage groups? So it you rip a box set of a TV show it still shows up
in recordings and if you record a movie it shows up in videos without
any work from the enduser. We could have discussions about
auto-expiration, but I think that is just a matter of using an algorithm
that suits you. Thanks, Thomas Mashos
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I do use for som shows and do see some good usage if I just could reduce
the amount of movies in my recordings group. I don't rip... Well to be
honest I am not sure how to go about "having mythvideo show movies from
both recordings and storage groups". I was trying to get
mythvidexport.py to work and thanks to Mike who got me back on track.
After that I found (like a lot of other non-English EPG users) it being
too faulty. Anywhere I could get help?
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> 
> Sorry, to
clarify, my suggest was basically a feature request. There
> isn't
currently a way to do that, it would require a code change.
> 
>
Thanks,
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> Thomas Mashos
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Arh... but then I
would merge them and make a better unified organisation for all shows
and movies 

Allowing the user to see i.e. 

-> recording now, new
today, movies, shows 

-> for each being able to see the categories or
browse all 

And if you where in the EPG be able to go back in time a
see what has been recorden and view it from there 

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