[mythtv-users] Live TV playback frustration

Thu Aug 23 14:17:26 UTC 2012

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:12 AM,  <mikkel at broerne.dk> wrote:
> On 23-08-2012 15:55, Thomas Mashos wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Nick Rout <nick.rout at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM, <mikkel at broerne.dk> wrote:
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> On 23-08-2012 11:10, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:16 PM,
> <mikkel at broerne.dk> wrote: I thought I would through in my thoughts and the
> reason why I chose Mythtv. Reasons for me choosing Mythtv: 1) I live in
> Denmark and have only access to SAT-TV and had a sat-box with buildt in
> DVR... so a combo of live tv and DVR. 2) I could not watch my shows at the
> same time as the kids or wife and the other way around. Open war when I
> wanted to watch sports. 3) I did not want to install full coax cable
> throughout the house and have sat boxes all over the place. I had gigabit
> network and wifi. 4) I love the stability and simplicity of linux 5) I am no
> fan of Microsoft or Apple and fully support open source Same for me to all
> the above ('cept I don't have gigE, but 100 is fine). But I HAVE trained the
> family off live tv. The kids often used to ask "Can you set up X to record,
> it's on Thursdays on Prime" - once I did it a few times they learned how to
> do it and now they do it themselves. I really have worked hard on the "don't
> watch crap just cos it is on, watch something you like, something we have
> recorded". Mind you I was never a channel surfer, always preferred to watch
> a whole show, or if I didn't know there was something on I wanted to watch,
> do something else. Read a book, go to the pub, go to the art gallery, visit
> a friend. I also have a rule against changing the music half way through a
> song, at worst you fade it out, otherwise change the music in a quiet bit!
> While I have never had to ban liveTV to change habits, it might be worth
> banning yourself from it for a week or two and see how it goes :) Why is
> Live-TV essential for for my family 1) bad TV habits - and I say bad because
> life is too short to spend on ½ a show or mindless reality junk, but then
> again so is eating at McD's compared to cooking a meal from scratch. I do
> both so shoot me. 2) Recording everything would call for better organization
> of the recording i.e. moving movies to MythVideo - Mike you support
> mythvidexport.py, but I tried and it does not work, which is do to my EPG
> not being in English (see thread on this topic.) And by the way Mike thanks
> for the help - you were spot on. 3) WAF 4) The “thrill” of watching sports
> live is completely removed by watching a recording even a 10 minute delay
> sucks in my book. I wish I could do some programming at the level all the
> dev's can. This way I could help improve the organization of recordings.
> Sadly, as it is now, we have a hard time sifting through all our movies and
> favorite shows. I cannot imagine also recording stuff that I might like and
> all the junk my wife and kids watch :-D Currently I am stuck on .24 and
> based on the dialog in this thread I will be for some time.
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> My day-to-day work can be summed up to Change Management. So I will always
> argue to try a change, but it can not be forced without a risk of it blowing
> up in your face. As I tried to write, we record everything of interest -
> only exception is sports. We have used it for 1½ year and recorded close to
> 750 shows The kids do record, but don't always watch it - there is too much
> unorganized stuff.
>
> Yep, especially so if your kids programmes are generally quite short, there
> are a lot of 15 minute kids cartoons, you end up with an awful lot of show
> names.
>
> As I see it there is a general need for 1) stable LiveTV + 2) improved
> interface/organization for recording i.e. moving recordings to Video which
> is a superb idea, but the method I tried does not work.
>
> Agreed on both counts.
>
> What I want to do is 1) always (job queue) move all movies to Video -> does
> not work 2) have a general rule that records new shows all the time on our
> most favorite channels (and delete within 24 hours) Allowing users to "time
> travel" -> the interface is not that good for this purpose. In general I
> guess the GUI/OSD is why many users use xbmc as a "frontend"??
>
> Yes there is a lot to like about XBMC! There is a lot to like about myth.
> Take the best out of both and we'd be there....
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> Regarding moving recorded movies to videos, would it not be better to
> have mythtv recordings show only TV shows from both videos and
> recordings storage group and have mythvideo show only movies from both
> recordings and storage groups? So it you rip a box set of a TV show it
> still shows up in recordings and if you record a movie it shows up in
> videos without any work from the enduser. We could have discussions
> about auto-expiration, but I think that is just a matter of using an
> algorithm that suits you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Mashos
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> Auto-expiration I do use for som shows and do see some good usage if I just
> could reduce the amount of movies in my recordings group.
>
> I don't rip...
>
> Well to be honest I am not sure how to go about "having mythvideo show
> movies from both recordings and storage groups". I was trying to get
> mythvidexport.py to work and thanks to Mike who got me back on track. After
> that I found (like a lot of other non-English EPG users) it being too
> faulty.
>
> Anywhere I could get help?
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Sorry, to clarify, my suggest was basically a feature request. There
isn't currently a way to do that, it would require a code change.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos