[mythtv-users] Disk Space Way Wrong

Gavin Hurlbut gjhurlbu at gmail.com
Sat Apr 21 06:47:22 UTC 2012


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Mark Lord <mythtv at rtr.ca> wrote:
> Patch already contributed, earlier in this thread.
> If you want it, then grab it, please.

As I'm sure you know, this isn't the chosen venue for patches for this
project.  I don't care how other projects may do it, honestly, here we
try to use trac to track such things.

> For a casual user (that's what I am here) to figure out an entire new
> system and drop the patch into the vast ignored pool of patches already
> in trac would be a complete waste of my time.

Now you are claiming that you, who maintains "a hundred or so" patches
is a casual user?  Hardly.  You've already determined enough about the
codebase to make the patches.  That and your bio from Linux Symposium
2010 claims you have the "most complex MythTV installation in the
world".  You are not a "casual user".  I dare say you likely aren't
even close on that other claim either.

Trac is hardly a "vast ignored pool of patches".  Seems to me that
you're making this up as you go along, and with absolutely no
reference into reality.  With 329 open tickets out of nearly 11000
tickets, most of which have no patches at all, you are certainly
mischaracterizing the nature of our trac setup.  What this comes down
to is that you can't be bothered to contribute in a way that's helpful
to those running the project, but would prefer to take nasty sniping
shots at us as often as possible.

No, if there is a complete waste of time involved here, it wouldn't be
in you creating tickets.

> But for somebody already "in the system", like you, it would be much simpler.
> Go for it.

This is idiotic.  You claim there is a bug, you don't report it, you
mumble about it much later on, and then waste everyone's time by
trying to pretend that you are better than everyone else, and that
putting in proper bug reports is beneath you.  It is dead simple to
put in a bug report, and even to attach a ticket to it.  Writing all
these emails saying it would be a waste of your time has taken you
more time than it would have to report the bugs you've found in a way
that benefits all.

Let me be very clear here:  If you have identified up to "a hundred or
so" patches that you feel need to be in MythTV for proper operation,
by not submitting bug reports, you are doing a disservice to every
other user out there.

As for your condescending attitude about proper use of symlinks, I
barely know where to start.  Excessive symlinks degrade system
performance, particularly when every open of every file in every
storage group will now take at least twice as long as it needs to
dereference the symlink and do yet another seek on the harddrive and
read yet another set of inodes.  As someone who actually knows what
that means, I'm quite honestly shocked that you think it's correct
operating procedure to use symlinks instead of mount points for this
job, just to save you the few extra seconds to change paths in
mythtv-setup the few times that you DO move it.

What you should be doing is mounting the storage group file systems at
mount points where ever you want them, and not to move them around.
The fact that you want to move them around just screams out that you
don't know what you are doing as you feel you need to rearchitect your
filesystem structure, and apparently, repeatedly.  Set it up the way
you want it, then set MythTV to point to the real mount points, then
leave it alone.  It works for thousands of other users, what's so
special about your setup that would require otherwise?


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