[mythtv-users] 0.25 Music & Videos Questions

[Michael Watson]

On 14/04/2012 10:33 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 06:58 PM, Scott & Nicole Harris wrote:
>>>> I'd have to say that's a "double" bug, then.  Shutting Myth and 
>>>> rebooting your system from the mechanism that Myth itself provides, 
>>>> should work as a "clean" exit.  Remember, once again, most of us 
>>>> only have remotes to interact with Myth with, so how would one 
>>>> propose restarting or shutting down (which I do every night, it 
>>>> runs off an SSD and the cold boot up time is negliable and sleep 
>>>> does not play well with it) the frontend otherwise?  The second 
>>>> side of this is the fact (as stated in the ticket) that MythMusic 
>>>> is saving playlists on frontend exit instead of on change, which 
>>>> seems rather backwards.
>>> From my standpoint, the mere ability for an unprivileged user to 
>>> shut down the system is a bug (or, more properly, bad design).  So, 
>>> since I don't allow MythTV user to shut down my systems, I'll leave 
>>> it to others who do to fix any issues in the 
>>> shutdown-through-ripping-the-rug-out-from-under-MythTV process.  :)
>>
>> This is a standalone frontend, which I (and more importantly the 
>> wife) views as nothing more than an appliance.  You turn appliances 
>> off when you're not using them, preferably with the remote that came 
>> with it...no different than a TV.  You don't need to be "special" to 
>> turn the TV off, you simply press the power button.  I'd think most 
>> people would expect to be able to "press the power button" (exit and 
>> reboot) from the appliance's on screen menu and have it do what ever 
>> it is it's supposed to do, properly.
>
> Ignoring the fact that on most of the appliances (at least STBs and 
> such...), when you hit the power button it does little more than shut 
> off the display output...
>
>> Do you know what happens when one selects "Yes, Exit" from the MythTV 
>> menu? That seems to work properly, so why can't it be done prior to 
>> the reboot in the "Exit and Reboot" option
>
> I'm pretty sure it is doing the same thing--the difference being that 
> before we exit, it sends the dbus command to shut down your system, 
> then it starts to exit, but dbus rips the entire system out from under 
> us before we finish exiting, so...
Surely you would be performing all the normal "Exit MythFrontend" tasks 
prior to sending the dbus command???
>
>> ...even if it has to be done via a script that gets called from this 
>> menu option?
>
> You can use a script, but you almost definitely haven't configured a 
> script and your distro is almost definitely using dbus.
>
>>
>> Bear in mind, I am not using the Menu from a static screen i.e. the 
>> main menu which brings up a list of options "Enter Standby Mode", 
>> "Shut Down", Reboot", "About" (because these menu options don't and 
>> never have worked for me...most likely due to the fact that my 
>> current user doesn't have proper permissions to do this).  I am 
>> pressing "Esc" from the main menu, which brings up a different menu 
>> and the option specifically says "*Exit* and Reboot".
>
> Try writing a script and configure MythTV to use that (instead of the 
> "let's use a dbus shutdown even if the user hasn't configured 
> shutdown") and put in a delay (or some kind of poll to see when the 
> frontend finally finishes exiting) and see if it works that way.  If 
> so, you can use that as a workaround for MythMusic's requirement that 
> you exit mythfrontend properly and/or a workaround for the fact that 
> dbus shutdown doesn't let mythfrontend exit properly.
>
> Mike
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