[mythtv-users] mythfrontend and Gnome or mythfrontend sans window manager with firefox?

[Michael T. Dean]

  On 10/12/2010 12:27 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>> On 10/12/2010 12:06, Steven Adeff wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>>>   On 10/10/2010 02:36 PM, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:24 -0400, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> and focus.
>>>>> IMHO, this is a common misconception.  I know I will get an argument
>>>>> about this but I have run Myth for many (i.e. since about 0.18 or 0.19)
>>>>> years without ever using a window manager and have never had a problem.
>>>>> Even when I used to use mplayer as an external video player (that's how
>>>>> long I have been using Myth).
>>>> And, therefore, all swans are white.
>>>>
>>>> But, hey, I'm sure you're using that 300kB of RAM far more effectively
>>>> than
>>>> it would have been used for running a window manager.
>>> The big advantage is that when mythfrontend would die, or be killed,
>>> it was easy to have it "restart" automatically. Every method I've seen
>>> that involved a window manager made this situation more difficult to
>>> near-impossible.
>> It's easy.  Fork your window manager in the background, and then do whatever
>> you would have normally done.  Run mythfrontend as the controlling process,
>> so the X server will terminate when mythfrontend does, and take the window
>> manager with it, using your inittab to manage auto-restart.  Code a restart
>> loop into your .xinitrc, so it becomes the controlling process and restarts
>> mythfrontend on its own.  Either way, it's a single line you need to add.
>>
>> and let mythfrontend function as the controlling process, or create a loop
>> and leave the xinitrc script is the controlling process.
> the last time I tried this a few years back it didn't work,
> mythfrontend would die but I couldn't get the window manager to.

That simply means that X was waiting on the window manager instead of 
waiting on mythfrontend.  So, a simple reordering of the script you used 
to start the window manager and mythfrontend would have fixed it.

>   So
> now I run sans-window manager, and even when I had mplayer as a player
> option it wasn't an issue, but all my frontends were remote only. Now
> I don't run mplayer, etc, just mythfrontend, so it's not an issue.

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Auto_Login shows a lot of ways to 
make it work.

Mike