[mythtv-users] IPad and mythtv.

Phil Linttell phil.linttell at rogers.com
Thu May 27 12:33:55 UTC 2010

On 10-05-23 08:00 AM, mythtv-users-request at mythtv.org wrote:
> Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 20:41:36 -0500
> From: jedi <jedi at mishnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] IPad and mythtv.
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:25:38PM +1000, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
>> > On 22 May 2010 04:55, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
>>> > >   Neglecting the fact that the iPad is locked down into Steves Walled
>>> > > Garden, the iPad itself has some severe limitations. Without hacks and
>>> > > workarounds, it's not really suitable as a "frontend" device. If it
>>> > > could do BD streaming and handle MPEG2 and divx as well then it would
>>> > > be another matter.
>>> > >
>>> > >   The shiny frontend is not quite enough.
>> > You're very narrow minded here when it comes to technical solutions
>> > around what the iPad supports.
>     Of course I am. I want my devices to play the stuff I already have
> lying around rather than trying to shoehorn everything to suit all of
> the limitations of Apple hardware.
>> > 
>>> > >
>>> > >   A liberated JooJoo probably has more potential. The newer Archos
>>> > > tablets might also have some potential. An Android app might be useful
>>> > > if not now than in the near future when something catches up HW wise.
>> > 
>> > If you could go past your philosophical/emotional stance and stayed on
>> > a technical level it would add much more to the discussion...
>     Apple's hardware is crap and is intentionally limited. There's nothing
> "emotional" about that. That's purely objective. I really don't get why you
> bother to make excuses.
>     The UI is interesting but the platform in general is locked down and is
> very limited in what it supports.
Maybe what mythtv needs is a streaming plug-in that can be configured to
do on-the-fly transcoding according to different mobile device screen
resolutions, available bandwidth, and codec support (and potentially
control protocols.)  There's a whole variety of mobile devices and
embedded TV front-ends these days, and it's simply not practical to do
static transcoding of all recorded content to each potential target.  In
my own house, I have Sony PSP's, Nokia smartphones, iPod Touch devices,
Android, Windows and Linux netbooks.  

The iPad is just another limited device, with specific codec,
performance, bandwith, and display characteristics and represents a
current small and specialized market - one which is clearly growing,
certainly, but as it grows it will diversify dramatically, as well.

It would be a shame to invest a load of development into support for a
single device, when each one of us probably has a number of different
mobile devices capable of streaming video, but which today each have to
be uniquely supported.

There are, of course, several projects which do on-the-fly transcoding
today, such as AirVideo and various UPnP servers....  and MythWeb.... 
and Myth already does streaming via it's UPnP support.... perhaps we
should start with developing a list of requirements and evaluating
potential technology starting points?

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