[mythtv-users] US Broadcasting bastards
Michael T. Dean
mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Fri Feb 26 04:24:44 UTC 2010
On 02/25/2010 10:05 PM, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 14:32 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> If they are on the same channel, I have often mused that Myth could handle that by writing that 5 minutes of what will be post-roll on the first show and pre-roll on the second show (i.e. it's the same 5 minutes in time for both) to both files.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And MythTV will do exactly this for digital channels on the same
>>>>> multiplex (including the same channel) on a digital capture card with
>>>>> multirec enabled.
>>>>>
>>>> This doesn't seem to work for me.
>>>>
>>>> I have set up recordings to start 2 minutes early and record over ten
>>>> minutes by default (Setup -> Setup -> TV Settings -> General - General
>>>> (Advanced).
>>> That is "soft" pre and post roll, it will be ignored for back to back
>>> recordings.
>>>
>>>
>>> The per recording rule post and pre roll are "hard" and will be
>>> honoured, even if you miss a show because there are not enough tuners.
>>>
>> This is what I figured was happening.
>>
>> Two thoughts on how this could be better.
>>
>> 1. The scheduler could use different inputs (on the same tuner) where
>> possible for back to back recordings so that this is still honored.
>>
>> 2. The could be an option in these soft settings to the record the
>> start/end even if the programs are back to back (like it will if you set
>> this up in the actual recording rules.)
>>
>> As many AU people have mentioned, show times are a little fluid.
>>
Read the entire thread at
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/195124#195124 or please
don't ever suggest that (2) again. :)
>> I regularly watch two back to back shows on a sunday night and it's
>> annoying having the start of one show on the end of another (I want the
>> whole show in each recording) and there's no reason why since these are
>> back to back that the software values couldn't be honored on the same
>> input.
>>
So fix your recording rules. This is *not* a bug, but a
misconfiguration of your system. You're abusing the "Time to record
before start of show (in seconds)" and "Time to record past end of show
(in seconds)" settings.
>> Is this bug worthy and how do I file a feature request?
>>
> No, and you don't. There is no official feature request method. There is a
> space in the wiki where people have collected ideas but I'm sure this is not
> a new one.
>
Kevin is 100% correct. That said, someone else didn't understand
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo , so we got
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6382 (and
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2604 and
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3496 ).
> There was quite a bit of work done by developers on a "softpad" branch to
> achieve these goals. You can google/search the archives for MythTV and
> softpad to get a sense of the effort involved and even the end result. Rest
> assured, it wasn't as simple an issue as it appears on the surface as the
> scheduler is more than a A + B = C calculation.
>
Heh, that's the one I linked above. :) See, also, the official ticket
for it at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/255 . It became a "Feature
Request *With* a Patch", but the changes were deemed too dangerous:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/238199#238199 .
Mike
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