[mythtv-users] Failing to find Freesat channels

[Ash Bostock]

On 28 April 2010 16:35, Andre <mythtv-list at dinkum.org.uk> wrote:

>
> On 28 Apr 2010, at 16:23, Ash Bostock wrote:
>
> > On 28 April 2010 11:35, belcampo <belcampo at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> > Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
> > Ash Bostock wrote:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > On 26 April 2010 17:40, Ash Bostock <abostock at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus DVB-S and want to use it to watch the UK
> Freesat channels.
> > If I try tuning with say the 1st frequency listed on
> http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html then myth fails to find any channels.
> >
> > Freq: 10714000
> > Polarity: h
> > Symbol rate: 22000000
> > FEC: 5/6
> > Inversion: auto
> >
> > So I've tried using "scan" from the command line and I get a lot of
> this...
> >
> > Network Name 'ASTRA'
> > tune to: 11973:v:0:27500
> > DVB-S IF freq is 1373000
> > 0x07de 0x1d39: pmt_pid 0x0121 BSkyB -- ITV1 HD (running, scrambled)
> > 0x07de 0x1cfc: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- Sony TV Asia (running, scrambled)
> > 0x07de 0x1d06: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- MAX (running, scrambled)
> > 0x07de 0x1d1a: pmt_pid 0x011f BSkyB -- ITV1 Central S (running)
> > 0x07de 0x1d1b: pmt_pid 0x011e BSkyB -- ITV1 Central E (running)
> > 0x07de 0x1d38: pmt_pid 0x0120 BSkyB -- ITV1 HD (running, scrambled)
> >
> > Where the channels are found but listed as scrambled. The 1st frequency I
> tried is also listed but fails...
> >
> > tune to: 10714:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
> > DVB-S IF freq is 964000
> > WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> >
> > Once "scan" has finished it does output a list of the channels it's found
> but none go the main ones,
> > e.g. BBC 1, BBC 2, Channel 4, Channel 4, BBC HD, etc.... are not on
> there.
> >
> > Any one got any ideas what's wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> >
> >
> >
> > On further investigation it would appear I'm only finding channels that
> are on the Astra 2B (http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html) frequency list.
> None of which carry freesat which is on Astra 2D (
> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2d.html).
> >
> > I know next to nothing about how dvb-s works, so could someone in the
> know explain whether this is simply just my sat dish pointing in the wrong
> direction? or is it a configuration option I need to change from with in
> myth to tell it to look at 2D instead of 2B.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > If you look at the footprint of the two satellites you will see that
> Astra 2D is highly focused on the UK whereas Astra 2B has a broader beam.
> >
> http://www.ses-astra.com/business/en/support/media-library/Footprint-Graphics/Footprint-Graphics-28-2-East/astra-2D-north.php
> >
> http://www.ses-astra.com/business/en/support/media-library/Footprint-Graphics/Footprint-Graphics-28-2-East/astra-2A-2B-south.php
> >
> > So your position, the size of your dish and correct/incorrect alignment
> of the dish may acount for you only getting channels from Astra 2B.
> > Current mythv .23 shows the problesm as described, my old
> myth-trunk-15965 receives them without any troubles.
> >
> >
> > Jens
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> > I've booked in a satellite guy to take a look tomorrow, so hopefully it's
> just an incorrect alignment issue.  The previous owners of my house used to
> get Sky ok, but it would seem those channels are all on Astra 2A and 2B, so
> I guess that would explain why it worked ok for them.
>
> It's worth comparing Lyngsat with the channels you do get, I've had a
> couple of Nova S+ cards fail in the same way. The symptoms were a greatly
> reduced set of channels which seemed to be related to no pilot tone for the
> high frequency band (so nothing over 11.6Ghz) and a general loss of
> sensitivity, in my case that meant no Eurobird but with a slightly different
> dish alignment or your location it could behave differently.
>
> Inability to tune Luxe HD was what made it show up, so as that happens very
> very infrequently I may have had the problem for some time!!
>
> One S+ was fixed under warranty the other is being an IR receiver :-(
>
> Do you have a regular sat receiver to try?
>
>
> >
> > I'm currently runnning the latest myth 0.22 fixes and I also tried
> scanning outside of myth (using "scan") so I'm now assuming the issue isn't
> an OS/software one.
> >
> > Thanks for your help, will report back after tomorrow, hopefully with
> success :)
> > Ash
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I matched up the channels that "scan" finds and they are only on the Astra
2A & 2B satellites, I get none from Astra 2D.
Unfortunately I don't (or know any one who does) have a regular sat receiver
I can try.

Ash
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