[mythtv-users] Enabling multirec borks usability a bit.

mugginz feed.mugginz at internode.on.net
Tue Apr 20 06:27:01 UTC 2010


On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:06:57 am Brian Wood wrote:
> On Monday 19 April 2010 06:25:02 pm Bill Bogstad wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Michael T. Dean
> > 
> > <mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
> > >>> Of course you never know what's going to pop up on live TV. I still
> > >>> have some
> > >>> VHS tape from mid-September 2001 that I could not have anticipated.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I think  many Myth users almost never use the live TV function (I use
> > >>> it rarely), but it seems to be the first thing complained about by
> > >>> new users when
> > >>> their systems are not set up properly. It takes new users a while to
> > >>> figure out
> > >>> that eliminating live viewing is a feature, not a problem.
> > >>> 
> > >>> One large advantage to Myth, IMHO, is that I do not have to watch
> > >>> live TV,
> > >>> along with its commercials, and I can watch what I want when I want
> > >> 
> > >> Live-TV is an essential tool for determining if the tuners are set up
> > >> properly and for identifying channels to determine if the channels are
> > >> mapped properly.
> > >> Yes newbes will complain about it not working, but imagine trying to
> > >> debug their systems without it.
> > > 
> > > Actually, Live TV as a test is not testing MythTV configuration.  It's
> > > only testing the tuner card/drivers itself--the same as could be done
> > > with dd/cat/azap/...  It's extremely easy to misconfigure mythbackend
> > > such that LiveTV works perfectly but recordings don't work at all.
> > 
> > It lets you verify your channel info is correct (call sign, etc.)
> > You can also match the scheduling information against what you are
> > seeing on your screen in real time.  No, it doesn't test everything
> > about recording, but it tests a lot more then dd or cat will.  Sure I
> > could go into the the scheduler and schedule something on the  60+
> > clear-QAM channels I'm currently getting in order to verify that my
> > mappings are correct.   Depending on the length of the shows,
> > multirec, and the number of physical tuners I have;  I'll be able to
> > review those recordings for errors in a day or two.  Or I can flip
> > channels in LiveTV and know it is all correct 10 or 15 minutes.
> 
> That's why I said it's complained about by users with systems "not set up
> properly", once set up and working many Myth systems never use live TV. it
> is a valuable and almost necessary tool for setting up systems, as you
> say.
> 
> It does test a fair amount, live TV is actually making a recording and
> playing it back, not just displaying the capture device's output, so it's
> a lot more than xawtv or tvtime. This will catch most problems, except
> perhaps with record scheduling and storage locations.
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Must disagree that LiveTV is never needed.  It's a bug in MythTV.  Nothing 
more.  This can be fixed.  No need for going through contortions once it is 
fixed.


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