[mythtv-users] desktop environment efficiencies.

Michael T. Dean mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Fri Nov 13 21:06:16 UTC 2009

On 11/13/2009 03:54 PM, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> On 11/13/2009 03:02 AM, sylvain brejeon wrote:
>>> The wiki says:
>>> "First you should know that you can run the plain
>>> MythFrontend<http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythFrontend>
>>>  *without* a window manager. Though if you want to start external
>>> programs,
>>> like Xine or MPlayer from MythVideo
>>> <http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo>,
>>> you will need one to get the new window visible."
>>> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Window_Managers
>>> So I guess it isn't completely helpless to make a WM-less suggestion.
>> And that was written by whom?  It was actually added to the current wiki by
>> a script that converted from the old wiki.  The old wiki was many years
>> (before Nov 2005) ago.  (Nevertheless, it was just as wrong then.)
> Come on Mike, spill the beans, put us out of our misery: what parts
> don't work without a wm?

All the parts that use more than one window.

Whether you notice a failure, though, is dependent on too many 
factors--such as the window sizes, the window and mouse/pointer 
positions at the time when the new window appears or when the additional 
window disappears, and a lot more factors.  This is why you can not say, 
"It works."

Again, though, let's just leave it at, "If you choose to run without a 
Window Manager, do not report any bugs relating to focus issues or loss 
of keyboard/remote control."  And, so that you don't inflict your pain 
upon others, it's nice not to recommend that they run without a Window 

And, again, 300kB...  Really.


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