[mythtv-users] 0.22 annoyances

Ben Woodhouse ben32768 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 30 02:50:23 UTC 2009

Thanks for the informative reply. 

It's reassuring that the focus issues can be fixed with a theme change. I tried most of the default themes, and they all exchibited the same behaviour, so I'd assumed it was a limitation in the UI code itself. Is the browser window focus issue likely to be related to this? If so, would this also be fixable with a theme change, or can those particular attributes only be applied to a buttonlist?

WRT to the memory usage, mythcentre-wide is lighter-weight than the other themes, but it's still currently using about 500MB on my box and does seem to progressively use more memory over time. A couple of days ago I installed the latest stable version from SVN, so I'll keep an eye on it and see if it's any better.

I don't think the seek table is corrupted, at least CHECK TABLE reports it as OK. But perhaps it is an issue with the database upgrade from 0.21. I recall that table did crash at one point and I had to repair it. I'll check the logs and see if I can find anything untoward. 

I should make it clear that I'm seriously impressed by what's been done with MythTV up until now. FWIW, I am a programmer, and I have been known to contribute open source projects, but I simply don't have the time to get involved with MythTV right now. I do however appreciate what the developers are doing. So unfortunately my (hopefully vaguely contstructive) complaining is the extent of my contribution right now. 


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:41 AM, David Engel <david at istwok.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 03:15:27PM
> +0000, Ben Woodhouse wrote:
> > List box behavior seems to be completely broken now.
> List boxes
> > inexplicably change focus when you reach the end, so
> if I'm
> > scrolling to the end of a list of articles in
> mythnews, the focus
> > will switch back to the news sources list instead of
> just stopping
> > at the end. Now I have to carefully scroll down,
> making sure I don't
> > go past the last entry, otherwise I'll have to scroll
> down all over
> > again. I don't understand the reasoning for this
> change. If I'd
> > wanted to switch to the left hand list box, I could
> simply press
> > left.
> > 
> > Probably related to this, if I scroll all the way to
> the right in
> > the browser, the UI will switch focus to some
> pointless control
> > above the browser window. There must be a better way
> to do this.
> This behavior is all now controlled by the theme instead of
> by the
> widget code.  Personally, I dislike the "scrolling
> past the end moves
> focus to the next widget" behaviour too and would like to
> see the
> default themes changed back to more pre-0.22 like
> behavior.
> > As others have noted (here for example :
> > http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2009-November/270659.html),
> > the right button on the recordings menu no longer
> works. The menu is
> > now inaccessable on my remote. I could reconfigure it,
> but I don't
> > want to use a less accessible button to access one of
> the most
> > commonly used menus, just because I might be using a
> theme which
> > supports horizontal scrolling (I'm not and I don't
> intend to).
> As has been noted multiple times, the right button menu was
> a casualty
> of allowing the theme to control widget traversal. 
> The menu can still
> be accessed by pressing the button tied to the INFO
> action.  The
> option is open for someone to add support so a theme can
> specify that
> an action (such as bringing up a menu) should occur instead
> of widget
> traversal.
> > There's no delete recordings view, which would be
> fine, except
> > there's no way to see how much space there is left, or
> change the
> > sort order (unless that's now in the hidden menu I can
> no longer
> > access)
> There is no loss in functionality between the watch
> recordings and
> delete recordings screens except for the disk space usage
> display.
> Someone does need to add the space usage back in.  A
> separate delete
> recordings screen is probably never coming back though.
> > Memory use is astronomical on all the themes I've
> tried (mythbuntu,
> > blue abstract, mythcentre wide, graphite), and
> mythfrontend seems to
> > leak memory like a sieve, even when it's just idling.
> I've seen it
> > peak at around 3GB at times. Restarting the frontend
> fixes it
> > temorarily, but it always becomes unusable again after
> a day or
> > so. My 1GB system just isn't sufficient any more, as a
> workaround
> > I'm planning to upgrade to 4GB, but I really shouldn't
> need to do
> > that for an lightweight SD-only media box.
> I haven't noticed excessive memory usage with
> MythCenter[wide].  I'm
> not saying it can't happen, just that I haven't noticed
> it.
> > When skipping forwards/back through a recording, it
> pauses for a
> > long time between skips when the button is held down,
> so skipping
> > forward through a show takes a very long time. This is
> probably
> > caused by the fact that it's playing the video between
> iterations,
> > which didn't happen in 0.21
> I haven't seen this.  Are your sure your seektable
> isn't corrupted?
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:42:25AM -0500, Devin Heitmueller
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Ben Woodhouse
> <ben32768 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > In my house at least, 0.22 has been a big step
> backwards in terms
> > > of usability. So for the time being, I'm
> switching back to 0.21
> > > and holding out to see if any of these issues are
> fixed in the
> > > next release. I guess in the meantime I should
> submit some bug
> > > reports.
> > 
> > Rather than submitting bug reports, how about rolling
> up your sleeves
> > and submitting some *patches* instead?
> I would welcome patches to the default themes to "fix" the
> focus
> change problems.  We would need concurrence from other
> developers to
> put them in svn, but I would seriously consider using them
> myself.
> David
> -- 
> David Engel
> david at istwok.net


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