[mythtv-users] I keep getting disabled from the list

David Shay david at shay.net
Sat Sep 15 00:39:23 UTC 2007

On 9/14/07, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:
> David Engel wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 03:22:55PM -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
> >> Jay Mallar wrote:
> >>> Not exactly sure why, but every three or four days, I get "disabled"
> due
> >>> to "too many bounces", but only on this list.  I'm on several other
> >>> lists, although not nearly quite as active, and I've never been
> >>> "disabled" before.
> >>>
> >>> Any idea how I can track this down?  I'm not even sure who's doing the
> >>> rejection...
> >> Not sure, but I think "secureserver" has something to do with GoDaddy,
> >
> > It does.
> Thought so.
> >
> >> and I have heard complaints that some of their anti-spam measures can
> >> get too aggressive.
> >
> > They most certainly are too aggressive.  I went through hell this past
> > January trying to get them to quit blocking www.mythtv.org as a spam
> > site.
> Yeah, their philosophy is wacky. I subscribe to the "better than a
> hundred guilty men go free..." theory.
> >
> >> I'd start there.
> >
> > I'd rather start with the actual bounce messages.  I've asked Isaac
> > for them a couple of times, but he hasn't delivered them yet.  Dealing
> > with Godaddy technical support, at least regarding email and spam IME,
> > was pure hell and I'd like to have as much information as possible
> > before going into battle with them again.
> They can be a little crazy. One time they identified a "spammer" (they
> were incorrect) and simply blocked the sender's entire class B network
> block. Not the best solution IMHO.
> My friends solved the problem by simply not sending mail through them. I
> think it will take a lot of people doing something like that to change
> their behavior, their management doesn't care if you talk to the tech
> guys all day, as they are paying them anyway.
> I can certainly understand why it would not be Isaac's highest priority.
> Don't they have some way to whitelist a site?
> beww

If you mean doesn't GoDaddy have a way to whitelist a site, apparently not
from my discussions with them.  After a lengthy debate with them, we
eventually had to change providers.  They did, however, refund our unused
portion because of their inability to deal with the problem.

As an interim solution, I ended up moving all of my mailing lists to a GMail
account, which I actually ended up leaving that way anyhow even after
changing ISPs.
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