[mythtv-users] Mooting architecture for a DataDirect replacement

Dan Ritter dsr-myth at tao.merseine.nu
Fri Jun 22 16:03:32 UTC 2007


On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:05:03AM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 10:13:27AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > > Sure.  I was, originally, actually planning on just having one
> > > newsfroup, and taking the efficiency hit of having machines have to
> > > grab all the new headers to see what to get -- because I was planning
> > > on having Supernews and the like carry it.
> > 
> > There's probably a decent argument for having a small hierarchy.
> 
> If we can get entire-hierarchy carriage, sure.  I'm not intimately
> involved with 'backbone' thinking these days.

There isn't one, really. The majority of newsservers will accept
any newgroup that comes their way.

> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.eastern
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.central
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.mountain
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.pacific
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.hawaii
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.alaska
> > alt.updates.mythtv.na.satellite

> But someone else suggested giving each program source it's own
> newgroup, which, while it expands the field, makes the parsing easier.
> It's an architectural decision, depending on facts not yet in evidence.

Yup. This is the product of 45 seconds of thought, and may be
nonoptimal.

> Did you make up "alt.updates"?  Cause that's nice.

Yes. Some of those 45 seconds went into:

- what if some other project wants to distribute data through
  NNTP?

alt.updates.otherproject.scheme.that.makes.sense.for.them

- what if every Myth user wants to do get data this way?

alt.updates.mythtv.uk...
alt.updates.mythtv.de...

- what if this becomes the default?

If this happens, I would also encourage (and perhaps develop) a
config package for Leafnode as the default receiver, and a
mini-INN or mini-Diablo package for people who want to donate a
little bandwidth to the cause.

There are public NNTP servers which might carry this traffic
(gmane.org comes to mind) and cheap ones run by high-clue people
(news.individual.net is right up there. $13 a year for good
access to all the non-binary groups. Happy customer. End plug.)

-dsr-

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