[mythtv-users] Where to start?
damian at gingermagic.com
Tue Jan 9 12:16:19 UTC 2007
>> I'm really quite lost when it comes to TV tuners, and the output.
>> I've been reading lots saying that the Hauppauge PVR 150, 350, 500
>> are great.
> I don't know that they are these days. When I was previously
> interested in MythTV, a good couple of years ago, I think these were
> well regarded for their mpeg hardware and TV-out. The mpeg hardware
> decoding was advantageous on the < 1ghz mini-ITX systems that were
> frontends-of-choice at the time, but I think many users would now
> choose an Xbox (and separate backend) first, and I think at least
> some of the chips on these cards is no longer supported in Myth. I
> don't think you could play back freeview channels through their TV-out.
>> But then I read (here
>> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/compare_products.html) that
>> they are analogue. Does that mean those cards are no good if I want
>> freeview and are only good for the 5 main channels?
> The freeview-compatible Hauppauge cards are their "Nova-T" series.
> The "Nova-S" ca be used to get free-to-air channels using a Sky dish.
I don't have a ski dish. Nor do I want one. Can't you get freeview
through a normal areal?
> I don't really know much about these products - I'm kinda considering
> a Nova-S myself, but there may be other / better brands.
Right, that's my main sticking point at the moment. I don't know what
hardware to buy to go to the next step. Has anyone got this set up and
>> Doesn't sound too
>> great, but maybe they make more sense for the American system?
> Many of the Americans here are also using "DVB" ("digital video
> broadcast") cards.
>> Also, the output.
>> Can my ATI All in Wonder Pro do the output?
> I'm not sure the performance of the model you mentioned.
>> What kind of output do I
>> need? Is it different if I use a projector?
> Writing as someone who's now considering replacing his telly to
> accommodate Myth, I advise you to take a very good look at your
> display device before committing to a video card.
> I know nothing about projectors, but traditionally the "good quality"
> video input on UK screens has been RGB SCART, with component having
> also become more common over the last few years; these are ideal ways
> to connect DVD-players & games consoles to your telly, but it's not
> very convenient to output to these formats using MythTV.
> VGA & DVI have become more common over the last couple of years, and
> any telly you purchase retail will now surely have these. They are
> the ideal way to connect to MythTV - as you know they are the
> standard out of graphics cards. Many of the TVs currently in the
> shops are "Hi-Def Ready" which means they have an HDCP-capable input
> - that's more than we need for MythTV, but it's compatible with DVI.
The first thing I saw on that page was "*HDCP* is a form of Digital
Rights Management". Isn't that that bad microsoft type rubbish that we
all want to avoid?
> Note that there are (for instance) 720p TV sets of 16:9 aspect ratio
> available with both 1280x720 and c 1024x768 resolution panels. If I
> do purchase a new TV soon I will be avoiding the latter.
> I guess one advantage of using a projector is that there are probably
> plenty of older VGA models available cheaply second-hand; I guess a
> resolution of 800 x 600 would be ok for MythTV - I guess that's
> better than DVD resolutions, if your DVDs are 4:3, anyway.
Yea, I'll maybe be buying a second hand projector. But I'm interested in
the possibility of running that OS (Ubuntu) on the projector at higher
resolutions if possible, so may buy new.
>> Different if I'd like higher
>> res graphics when emailing etc using the projector?
> My experience is that TV isn't really suitable for web-surfing or
> (especially) email. It just isn't comfortable and doesn't "feel
> right", somehow. If you really need this PC to be dual-purpose then
> you might be better having a separate keyboard & monitor for that
> sort of use - this display could be entirely independent of the
> MythTV head, if you configure X correctly. To be able to surf & email
> from the couch then I find it more convenient & comfortable to stick
> a wireless card in an old laptop.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I assumed MythTV wouldn't be the best for email
and browsing. I'd want to drop back to Ubuntu for that.
>> Oh yes, is my system going to be up to the task is the other thing?
> Yes. Your system - the CPU, processor & RAM is fine for SD playback.
> I think there's only one free-to-air HD channel in the UK, and I get
> the impression you're not in the market for a Sky subscription.
Is it fine for playback and recording at the same time? Pausing Live TV etc?
I just need to nail down what cards to buy now.
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