[mythtv-users] Looking for high WAF in-wall speakers!!

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 15:21, Steve Adeff wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 January 2006 15:09, Richard Bronosky wrote:
> > Wow, great stuff.  I like the link you included.
> >
> > To answer the you're whipped... and, you should do what sounds best...
> > arguments.  Let me say that I agree with her "ahem" (I don't think the
> > following word is appropriate for her, but here goes) Logic.  I have
> > never owned a surround system.  Just about anything I do is going to
> > sound better than the speakers built into the plasma.  I'm just seeing
> > the opportunity to step it up a notch as I am currently installing the
> > crown molding.  (I didn't think of doing this while I had the sheet rock
> > crew in replacing the popcorn ceilings with flat.)  I'm looking for an
> > improvement not a pinnacle.  This is not the right room in the house for
> > a home theater.  I have one of those.  I'll be investing in it later.  I
> > want this space to look great and function for general TV viewing.  The
> > quality sound for this space will be coming from a baby grand player
> > piano.  The TV viewing is less of a feature.  My wife is an excellent
> > decorator and I trust her.
> >
> > So, with that said, I'm shooting for the $1000 for all 5 and a sub
> > range.  The greatest challenge is that there is no back wall or right
> > wall to this viewing space.  You can see what I'm talking about on my
> > flickr page.  The TV is going above the fireplace.
> >
> > http://flickr.com/photos/richardbronosky/61454844/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/richardbronosky/61454250/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/richardbronosky/61454890/
> > that bare column stands at what used to be the corner of a separate
> > room, seen in these before shots:
> > http://flickr.com/photos/richardbronosky/56052452/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/richardbronosky/56052494/
> >
> > The issue of not having a back wall (cause it's open to the kitchen)
> > makes me think that speakers in the walls or in the ceiling will be hard
> > to point toward the viewing space.  Suggestions?
> >
> > Meatwad wrote:
> > > Richard Bronosky wrote:
> > >> Why is it that Bose can use those tiny little cube speakers for there
> > >> flag ship product, but their in-wall speakers have to have a 8 3/4" by
> > >> 6" face plate?
> > >
> > > Bose use tiny little cube speakers in their flagship product because a)
> > > they have a very high WAF, b)they are INSANELY inexpensive to
> > > manufacture and c)they are marketed towards upscale consumers who read
> > > high-brow magazines without bothering to learn even the most basic
> > > tenets* of proper loudspeaker design.
> > >
> > > Don't know why they took a traditional design approach to their
> > > in-walls seeing as nearly everything else they design is
> > > non-traditional. FWIW, they still sound absolutely awful.
> > >
> > > In-walls can sound fantastic when designed well with quality
> > > components. Look at Sonance, RBH, Polk or Niles just to name a few of
> > > the entry level players. If your budget allows and you want to get very
> > > accurate sound from in-ceiling speakers, look at Triad. Another
> > > in-wall/ceiling which has a very different approach with some amazingly
> > > detailed imagery are Cabasse iO coaxials.
> > >
> > > But please, please, please do your Myth system some justice and put
> > > something, ANYTHING, other than Bose in the room.
> > >
> > > * Here is the de facto article I refer prospective clients to when they
> > > bring up Bose. If they still have a thing for Bose, I know they are
> > > going to be PITA customer and I politely drop them like a hot potato.
> > > http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
>
> if you can live with regular ol' speakers I'd recommend the Energy Take 5
> (or whatever the new set they replaced the Take 5 with) or Paradigm's
> Cinema series. They all consist of small satelite speakers with a subwoofer
> and sound excellent. My dad has the Energy Take 5 and I was blown away by
> how good it sounds for the price and size. They have great staging and
> depth, something I was not expecting from them.

I should add, my parents remodel will have a similar layout for their 
hometheatre room, 3 walls, no back wall. My mom's plan is to continue to use 
the Energy Take 5 (she enjoys the home theatre experience as much as my dad, 
it just took the great quality and living room comfort experience in person 
to convince her). Using wall mounts for the surrounds, mounting them about 
1ft below the ceiling and angling them towards the sitting area. The front 
l/r will sit on some very stylish stands that she picked out to match the tv 
stand she picked out. She's an Architect/Interior Decorator, so after a 
half-hour of explaining room acoustics to her we were able to lay this design 
out.

That said, I do love what you've done with the place, the large room is the 
same concept my parents are going for, it really opens the place up and gives 
the feeling of grandeur. Good luck in convincing the wife!

-- 
Steve