[mythtv-users] HDHomeRun

[Michael Freeman]

On 8/2/06, Brad Templeton <brad+myth at templetons.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Mark (home) wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 03:18 am, Brad Templeton wrote:
> >
> > > > For recording from a cable or sat box it would be better to use the
> HD
> > > > outputs rather than NTSC. With hardware encoding to MPEG4 I could
> see it
> > > > being useful.
> > >
> > > Useful, but not possible with consumer grade hardware costing less
> than
> > > thousands of dollars.
> >
> > Yeah, what HD recording capability is he talking about???  There's
> nothing out
> > there I've ever found for HD recording off Satellite short of megabux.
>
> Actually about $2,000 last I checked but I have heard from several people
> thinking about taking advantage of Moore's law to bring us consumer cost
> recorders.
>
> What stands in the way, however, is a difficult proposition as an
> investor.
>
> a) Yes, many people want to be able to record HDTV to their Windows MCE,
> Myth
>    or other boxes.
>
> b) However, for many of them, DRM based solutions will partly solve their
> problem,
>     and do it better than frame capture can.   MCE is in theory supposed
> to
>     get cablecard certification.  Cable and Satellite DVRs get it
> directly.
>
>     So those people drop out of the market.
>
> c)  The DRM community is making a big push to eliminate DVI outputs from
>     cable/satellite boxes, forcing you to go to analog -- which is harder
> and
>     can be lossy.  DVI will be replaced with HDMI.   They know a DVI
> recorder
>     is on the threshold of getting cheap.
>
> d)  The DRM community also has a long term plan to get rid of analog HD
> outputs,
>     forcing boxes to down-res the analog.
>
>
> So if you are investing, you must first consider that the "stand alone
> PVR"
> market, while not nothing, has remained modest.   However, the hardware
> encoder
> chips able to do HD will remain in high demand for the camcorder market,
> so
> they will be available.  Those all go directly from sensor, so A2D is not
> needed.
>
> Secondly you are in a race as they work to obsolete your capture card real
> soon
> if you want it to capture DVI, and further on if it has the A2D able to
> record
> component out.
>
>
> So, are you going to invest in a company to make such capture cards?
> I hope somebody does, but they will sell much smaller numbers than they
> would
> in an open world.
>
>
> (Well, not quite, because in an really open world there would be no need
> for capture
> cards, so they would sell none!)
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any room for qpsk demodulation, for finding that out of band program guide
datastream from your local cable company?
i've heard they tend to be ~3 MHz wide, have a 2 Mbps data signal, and
reside somewhere between 0 and 100 MHz.
eventually having myth follow the unencrypted digital channels around the
spectrum automatically would be nice.
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