[mythtv-users] using WinTV PVR-350 to play AM/FM radio? (slightly OT)

Steven Adeff adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Tue Apr 4 00:32:49 UTC 2006


On 4/3/06, Brad DerManouelian <myth at dermanouelian.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>
> > On 4/3/06, Jeff Simpson <jeffsimpson at alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
> >> On 4/3/06, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >> On 4/3/06, Jeff Simpson < jeffsimpson at alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Yes. I will put the effort into developing it, unless someone
> >>>> else does
> >> it
> >>> first. There are radio talk shows that I like to listen too...
> >>> and being
> >>> able to record them, automatically rip the commercials, and
> >>> encode them to
> >>> mp3 would be very desirable. At the moment my plate is pretty
> >>> full, but as
> >>> soon as things settle down some I will get going on this....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This does sound like a great idea. I would probably listen to a
> >>> lot more
> >>> radio if I could pick which shows to listen to and fast-forward
> >> commercials.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think you will be able to automatically commercial-detect
> >>> like you
> >>> can with video - a lot of the video commercial detection
> >>> algorithms depend
> >>> on the actual frames of video. Worth a shot, though
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I wonder if there is a database somewhere for radio programming?
> >>>> The
> >>> database for radio shows might have to be divided up by hour and
> >>> labeled
> >> by
> >>> the date and time... ie...
> >>>>
> >>>>         |   8     |  8:30  |   9
> >>>> NBC |   earl  | office  |  etc
> >>>> 98.5  |  98.5 8-9 4/06| 98.5 9-10 4/06
> >>>>
> >>>> thus when you go to schedule via mythweb/guide then you would just
> >> select
> >>> the hours you want to record.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Screenscraping the actual stations webpages might be the only
> >>> way. I think
> >>> manually recording might be the best way for now, seeing as there
> >>> are SO
> >>> many radio stations, and some of them re-use the same frequencies
> >>> if they
> >>> are far enough apart. Easier to just know what time to record.
> >>
> >>> thats the best way I can think, perhaps a plugin system for scraping
> >>> specific station webpages?
> >>
> >> here's a site that lists public radio schedules, looks like a LOT of
> >> stations:
> >>
> >> http://www.publicradiofan.com/cgi-bin/whatson.pl?
> >> when=nowlookahead&lookahead=200&format=grid
> >>
> >> But to tell you the truth, I think the hardest and most important
> >> part will
> >> be integrating the recording and scheduling into myth. Things that
> >> will have
> >> to be handled:
> >>
> >> Adding the radio as a separate tuner would easily give you the
> >> ability to
> >> add channels and a separate channel-changing script
> >> However, it would get more complicated, since the radio and TV
> >> tuner can't
> >> be used at the same time, you'd need a way to handle conflicts
> >> (somehow link
> >> the radio tuner to a TV tuner?)
> >> How to actually record and store the recordings. Will it record
> >> directly to
> >> mp3, or does it need to be piped through an encoder. Can we store
> >> it in the
> >> same recordings database myth uses, or is it best to keep them
> >> separate?
> >>
> >> Sounds like it could potentially be a major change to myth.
> >
> > perhaps modifying myth to add a second type of channel for radio
> > stations that you want to be recorded, a flag that would let mbe know
> > that it needs to tune to the radio instead of TV?.
> >
> > I can think of ways it could present itself to the user, but I have no
> > idea what the backend changes required would be...
> >
> > --
> > Steve
>
> That makes more sense to me. Don't add a new tuner since it's the
> same tuner. You just need to flag each channel in the DB so when it
> comes to that channel, it sends an alternate change channel script.
> Then you also need to handle the video differently, too... like not
> at all. instead of displaying video when you hit a radio channel, we
> probably need to display some OSD with info about the station.

one of the MythMusic style visualizations with station info overlayed
would be cool...

--
Steve


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