[mythtv-users] Stability of ATrpms (was: mythRecipe)

Patrick de Brabander [mythtv] mythtv at pdebrabander.nl
Thu May 26 10:08:58 UTC 2005


Axel,

Is it possible to make package for these plugins in the bleeding section.


> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 05:58:05PM -0700, Karsten Jeppesen wrote:
>> Regarding your question about Axel (atrpms):
>> In my opinion atrpms should be handled with care. If used incorrectly -
>> it may blow up your system.
>
> Not if you use at-stable which is the default setting.
>
>> Some of the stuff that is there is much more
>> complete than it is from the base/update repositories, and a lot more
>> bleeding edge. Not unstable - just newer.
>
> Not if you use at-stable which is the default setting. ;)
>
>> So it is possible to paint yourself into a corner revision wise.
>> My philosophy is: never use yum update while atrpms is active. Only
>> download what you need.
>
> Then you are left with broken dependencies.
>
>> An example is the Alsa system. If you use yum update the Alsa system
>> will be useless afterwards. Simply because the FC3 rpms for Alsa are
>> brainless. So you end up with atrpms Alsa system except for the
>> alsalib which will remain the old one. DUH - they are not
>> compatible.
>
> If you download selectively you are left with broken dependencies.
> That kind of caution is just doing the damage you are trying to avoid.
>
> Also using yum is known to munge your system. The recommended
> depsolver is apt (and smart for x86_64/i386 multilib systems)
>
>> So you can get all the neat stuff from atrpms. But do not disconnect
>> your brain. It does require supervision.
>> That is why I maintain internal caches of outside repositories. It makes
>> it faster to wipe the system and get it back up again.
>
> ATrpms' at-stable section has been just that, stable. Even if
> mythtv-suite sometimes has bad dependencies ...
>
> If you use the "bleeding" section, then all you get is what you asked
> fro ;)
> --
> Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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patrick



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