[mythtv-users] Getting a Plasma, Scared of Burn-In

Marius Schrecker masch at tiscali.no
Fri Jul 15 03:12:44 EDT 2005

This may be a very stupid question, but: What about LCD's? They're far less
sensitive to burn-in, have HDTV definition, and are getting much better
with regard to colour definition, response time and viewing angle. Here
in Norway I can get a 37" Viewpia (8ms, 1200:1 contrast,1366x768)for about
the same price as an equivalent plasma. The very largest LCD's are still
not good enough so if you need 42"+ then I understand.



>-- Original Message --
>Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:25:46 -0600
>From: Matt Grommes <matt at mattorama.net>
>To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Getting a Plasma, Scared of Burn-In
>Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>I was listening to a podcast interview with the head of Panasonic's 
>flatscreen TV division and he dismissed both the concerns about burnin

>and lifetime for plasmas. I'll have to dig up the other review I was 
>reading where they talked about burn-i
> as well.

http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail562.html is the link to the 
interview. The guy sounded pretty knowledgeable.

David wrote:
> I'd be interested in where you heard that, because from everything I see

> burn-in with plasma
>is still a very real concern, and plasma sets are 
> much more sensitive than CRT's.  With modern CRT's burn-in is almost a

> thing of the past (not entirely, but practically).
> What *has* improved with recent plasma TV's is half-life.  For th
>se who 
> don't know, the plasma gas used in plasma TV's has a finite life, 
> measured in hours (or thousands of hours).  At their "half-life" they

> are half as bright as when new.  Brightness steadily declines over time

> to the point that the
>TV becomes unwatchable and must be trashed.  
> While, say, a DLP bulb has limited life measured in several hundreds of

> hours, picture quality is generally constant until the bulb burns out,

> then after spending $200-$300 for a new bulb the pic
>ure is as good as 
> new again.  You have no such recourse with a plasma -- when it's dead,

> it's dead, you can't pump more plasma gas into it.  You're left with a

> very expensive wall ornament.
> In the early days of plasma, when the small
>st ones cost $10K-$15K, 
> half-life was somewhere around 2-5 years depending on the frequency of

> use.  Recent models have improved to a half-life of reportedly near 
> 80,000 hours as I recall, which would be a half-life span of over 9 
> years
>if the TV was left running 24/7.  Of course none of these newer 
> models have actually been around long enough to test that claim.  :)
> But while half-life seems to be a non-issue these days, burn-in is still

> a major factor according to wha
> I'm still seeing.
> David
> Matt Grommes wrote:
>> From what I understand, burn-in really isn't an issue with new-ish 
>> plasma displays. Any more than with a CRT anyway. That was more of an

>> issue with the first few generations o
> products.
>> Peter Santerre wrote:
>>> I'm getting a good deal on a last-years-model Plasma TV (NEC 50" MX3)

>>> and will be hooking it up to my Myth box.
>>> I'm very nervous about burn in, as this would be considered a very 
>> large purchase on my current salary :)
>>> What do other users of Myth do to prevent this issue, while still 
>>> keeping the WAF rating high?    I guess I imagine while watching DVD,

>>> TV, etc the screen would not blank, but if it was idl
> on a menu for 
>>> 30s or so it would black it out.  Sort of like MythMusic does I 
>>> guess.  After 30s of no activity it goes full screen with my choice

>>> of music display.
>>> I know that plasma TV's are getting better and better about
>>> getting burned, and maybe I'm being over paranoid, but like I said,

>>> this is a big purchase, and ruining it would be a very sad day :)
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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