[mythtv-users] My next Myth box
jcw at wilsonet.com
Thu Sep 2 18:16:51 EDT 2004
>>> And you want to pay *extra* for that?
>> Did I, or did I not say: "The price isn't the point"?
> Was I or was I not talking about the form factor?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you say "pay *extra*", you're
referring to the price.
>>> One of the main attractions of LCD is the tiny footprint and
>>> elegant/slim profile.
>> THE main attraction is the picture quality. And 5.25" *is* a tiny
>> footprint and slim profile compared with many televisions. Yes, there
>> are thinner. But then you need somewhere to stick the computer. No
>> more tiny footprint.
> Lovely piece of non-logic here
Yes, my apologies, comparing a TV to a TV is completely illogical in
> a cow is a small compared to many
> animals, it doesn't mean it's small.
I didn't say it was small. I said it was smaller than many other
televisions. Furthermore, your analogy is less than applicable. Do you
get your milk from a whale? No. But I can get my TV viewing done on both
a CRT display and LCD display. Comparing different breeds of dogs would
be far more apropos.
> Who cares if it's small compared
> to a 30" CRT? It's not a CRT.
I didn't compare it to a 30" CRT. I compared it to other TVs. However, I
care that its smaller than a 30" CRT.
> I quoted a specific part that has the
> same specs yet is extremely slim with a small footprint i.e. what is
> expected out of an LCD monitor.
This isn't just a monitor.
>>> So basically you are taking one of the best features of LCDs, tossing
>>> it out the window, and charging extra for it. Meanwhile you can get
>>> a streamlined 30" LCD TV from Dell with the same specs for $2500 and
>>> have $3500 left over for a machine
>> One more time, with feeling: the price isn't the point.
> One more time, with feeling: I was taking about the form factor. Ignore
> the price
Then quit throwing out prices.
> and the fact remains, you are discarding one of the most
> attractive features of LCD monitors: the slim profile/small footprint.
Trade-off for having everything in one. Some people can live with that.
>>> which you can toss inside a 1U/2U housing and fit right into your AV
>>> rack/media closet.
>> Because 1U and 2U machines are generally SOOOO quiet...
> What sound does a "1U" make? 1U refers to a form factor commonly used
> in rack installations.
Gee, is that what those things in my server room are...
> It has *ZERO* correlation with how quiet the
> resulting machine is.
Smaller form-factors are harder to cool. For example, you can't fit a
huge passive heat-sink in a 1U case as easily as you can a 4U and
there's less room for air flow. That's not "*ZERO* correlation" if you
> Use quiet parts and guess what you get? WOW
> WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED???? A QUIET COMPUTER!
I'm amazed, I bow to your infinite wisdom. But what I said still holds
true. Generally, 1U and 2U machines are not very quiet. I'd like to hear
your quiet P4 3.0GHz 1U versus the AlienWare DHD.
> And then you
>> don't have an all-in-one package, which was the whole point.
>> Obviously, this machine wouldn't work for you. But your TV viewing
>> room isn't the only one in consideration here. I don't *want* an AV
>> rack in my bedroom or living room. I've got one in my media room, yes,
>> but an all-in-one design works MUCH better in places where you don't
>> have an AV rack.
> So when it's talking about plugging the audio out into your receiver,
> where would this mysterious reciever reside? In an imaginary AV rack?
> Or are you going to just leave it running without sound and imagine the
A receiver isn't a requirement. The thing has a sound card. Does the
sound card in your computer require a receiver to produce sound?
My apologies to the list, I get carried away sometimes. My original
posting was already not exceedingly relevant to the list, and now its
gone way off-topic into a pissing contest. One every few months must be
good for my disposition or something. We're all entitled to our opinion
about everything. I like what AlienWare has done. I'll stop now.
Jarod C. Wilson, RHCE
jcw at wilsonet.com
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