[mythtv-users] To TiVo or mythTV it

[Christopher McEwan]

Its the same story in the UK, we used to scrape the listings from the
Radio times wesite for 14 days listing which would take about 1-1.5
hours. Downloading a lot !! of webpages.

Despite peoples attemps to randomize when the hit the website,
Radiotimes noticed the bandwidth and pulled the plug. The brilliant
XMLTV people struck a deal with radiotimes and they now provide raw
xml data which takes a minute to download at worst. I personally would
be happy to pay a small yearly fee for the listings.



On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:59:44 -0500, Jack Trout <witmore1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I dont know but there was an article about a year or so ago, it
> was about TiVo actually they did something else that rose people in
> arms, if you didnt have something scheduled for some show that they
> partnered with a studio for it recorded it then, and people noticed
> some wierd show that they didnt set to record on thier boxes the next
> day. TiVo came out with a press release that said something to the
> affect that it did no harm and the show was recorded to a part of the
> system partition that wouldnt interfere with the recording of other
> shows, but you couldnt delete it that it would be deleted on its own,
> so essentially what your TiVo Records is forsale to the highest
> bidder, at that point I decided I would never buy a TiVo and found
> more info on programs like Myth where I could controll my box
> implicitly
> 
> > The bigger issue is what the long term
> > situation with TV listings is.  Right now we are getting them at the
> > largess of zap2it.  This bothers me because they could pull the carpet
> > out from underneath us any time they wanted to.  At that point mythtv
> > becomes much less functional, because in the end what I really want is
> > recorded TV that's based on accurate index information.  Who wants to go
> > back to programming their VCR ?
> 
> Well In the earlier days everyone using xmltv had to use tv_grab_na or
> its region equiv, what it originally did (and still does for european
> countries) is grab a webpage and parse its data into an xml file which
> myth could then import into its database, this takes much more
> bandwidth than the current version DataDirect which actually supplies
> just the raw xml. DataDirect was created because Many projects used
> XMLTV and thier script to download thier pages (10-13 days worth) and
> mine the data from that, costing zap2it to notice alot of bandwidth
> being used in a way that is not consistant with the normal users
> browsing habits (downloading 13 pages worth of listing in under 5
> minutes just normally isnt done by joe schmoe user) so they figured it
> out what and who was using it and began to offer this service which is
> great for us, because using the grab method took much longer and
> occassionally Zap2it would change thier layout or default listing
> style and xmltv would break. But if TMI services or datadirect ever
> goes away or becomes a pay service, and people dont think the money is
> justified, they will just convert to grabing from zap2its site, or
> just finding another site to use (maybe even having to find regional
> and or local sites as there arent very many sites which are as
> extensive as zap2it)
> In Short, When theres a will theres a way, but Datadirect sure does
> make it easier
> 
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:20:31 -0500, Christopher Flynn
> 
> 
> <flynnguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:56:40 -0700 (MST), Rich
> > <yahoo.rich at bladeracing.com> wrote:
> > > No experience yet using IR devices with Linux.  If you have one you like
> > > for the remote control I would like to hear from you.
> >
> > http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html
> >
> > Homebrew serial port works well with me. If you know how to use a
> > soldering iron it's not too hard.
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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~CM