[mythtv-users] Mailing list and a Wiki... and a dessert topping
kuphal at dls.net
Tue May 18 12:22:42 EDT 2004
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Maarten
> van den Berg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mailing list and a Wiki... and a
> dessert topping
> On Monday 17 May 2004 22:53, Isaac Richards wrote:
> > On Monday 17 May 2004 04:15 pm, David wrote:
> > > http://www.mythtv.info/
> > > )
> > And let me point out that this isn't offical, nor will I
> link to from the
> > main website.
> Isaac, you're my hero, since you wrote this fantastic
> software and I love you.
> But you have some truly strange concepts about some things...
> Well, that's real helpful, you not linking to them, and
> neither to Jarod...
> So let's look at what you DO link to (or host yourself), why
> don't we ...?
> For instance, what is this "Topics" link in mythtv.org ?
> ( http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=Topics )
> Hey, it sure looks like a "Forum". Well, to be more precise,
> a readonly,
> moderated, and painfully empty forum. So is this more like
> your idea of
> managing docs ? Excluding highly useful docs from your site
> yet leaving an
> unhelpful (even confusing; I know, I've been there, was a
> newbie...) "Topics"
> section in there which looks like it has only been there less
> than a week but
> Where is the logic in that ? And who's going to populate the
> gaping empty
> Topics sections ? You ? With respect, but I don't think so.
> Don't you think it is time to let go and see what the
> community can do,
> documentation-wise, on their own preferred "platform" ?
> I mean, what is the use of the "Topics" site, do we have to
> submit a cvs patch
> in order to get something contributed there ? This happening
> is highly
> unlikely, and it stifles end-user contribution. Plaintext or
> no plaintext.
> > If you want to work on docs, contribute back to the
> official docs. Don't
> > fragment the effort by using random wikis.
> Sorry but I'm getting fed up. Would you please care to tell
> me where you want
> all these random contributions to go in the official doc
> 'cause I don't see
> it belonging in a main doc, much less where:
> * How to silence your system * What to tune your cards to
> when in <country X>
> * What to do when your remote xyz is seemingly sending random
> garbage to lirc
> * How to build mythtv on <random distribution> * What to do
> if your font size
> doesn't change a friggin' thing to the display * How to
> remove recording
> profiles * Realize that the docs do NOT describe the
> official release, but
> the bleeding edge cvs version instead.
> That last point is SO confusing, for newbies and power users
> alike, that the
> mailinglist alone is buried in "Why does button X not do what
> it's supposed
> to do" -type posts. Very good that the docs are up to date,
> sure, but aren't
> we jumping the gun a bit here ?
> If you really want to be adamant in keeping all the docs on
> your site and not
> anywhere else, maybe you should take the first step and make
> it possible to
> register and contribute to
> It IS on
> your site, so it IS an officially supported doc feature, right ?
> If not, why is it even there ?? It's not like its helping
> anyone, is it ?
Regarding the Topics section: The Topics section is a PHPnuke/PostNuke style
holder for the news items you see on the frontpage of the site. Each item
gets a designator that places it into one of those Topic categories. It is
pretty common for sites (see Slashdot). It is not, however, related to the
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